Nightforce or not

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by SHW, Aug 14, 2006.

  1. SHW

    SHW Active Member

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    I am reatively new to over 300 yard shooting. I currently shoot a custom 300 RUM with a #5 Lilja & a Swarovski 4X12X50 TDS. I am setting up a Sendero SF II. This will be a dedicated long range paper puncher & eventually a hunting gun as well. Most of the hunting with the SF II will be in a sendero or bean field. I am torn on optics as this will be my first go around with turrets. Low light performance is important. I have been very pleased with my Swaro's & TDS's, but want to shoot farther & turrets seem to be the way to go. I eventually want to shoot out to 800 yds. I know it will take a lot of pratice.

    I have only seen one Nightforce NXS in the Memphis area, not many stocking dealers here. Should I bite he bullet & get a Nightforce? I am leaning toward the 5.5X22X50. What do you guys think. Thanks
     
  2. Black Diamond 408

    Black Diamond 408 Well-Known Member

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    In my opinon its the best scope out there!
    Contact BJ for a good deal on the scopes.
    bailey1474@hotmail.com
     

  3. lerch

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    Me and Bill Bailey are stocking dealers for them. We cover shipping as well. currently I have the 5.5-22x50mm in the NPR-2 and MLR reticles in stock. Email either one of us or call 1-800-522-3314 for a price.

    I own a 5.5-22 NF on my 270AM and it is absolutely amazing. The clarity, color transfer, and light gathering ability is stunning to say the least. The illuminated reticle is astounding and just knowing that your clicks are 100% true is a great feeling.

    All in all they are just great scopes

    take it easy
    steve
     
  4. eshell

    eshell Well-Known Member

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    I like the NF scopes as well. I have the 3.5-15x50 and the 5.5-22x50, both are very nice scopes.
     
  5. wildcat

    wildcat Well-Known Member

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    Go with the Nightforce NXS, I own three. In my opinion, they are the best scope out there.

    Wildcat
     
  6. Buffalobob

    Buffalobob Writers Guild

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    A thing to consider is that at about age 40 your night vision begins to fade away and unlike other functions that start to fade also, Viagra doesn't help it. The 56 mm objective will gather more light than the 50mm. This will be at the expense of your check weld because of the higher ring required. To get back to your normal cheek weld you have to have some method of raising the comb.

    Something to to think about
     
  7. Shawn Carlock

    Shawn Carlock Sponsor

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    SHW,

    I almost one of each of their scopes, the 5.5-22x50 NPR2 is absolutly my favorite piece of glass. Shell out the buck and never look back.
     
  8. Jimm

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    What Buffalobob said x 2 .

    I reckon dollars has a lot to do wth scope mfg as well . I have the pleasure to shoot nightforce side with my Leupold mk4 8.5x25x 50 ( wish it was a 56mm)

    The nxs 56 most readily apparent advantage to me is the extremely noncritical eye relief . Colors don't seem as rich to me as the Leupold either . A few days ago I visited Preston Pritchett at his Surgeon Rifles shop close to Prague , Ok.

    He was a great host but that is another story . He took us to his residence and drug out his toys as all us boys do when folks come along .

    He had a Schmidt and Bender PMII ( what is it ? 5x22x56? ) Whatever it was an epiphanie for me ( means I had to go take a leak out behind his house )The function knobs / tactile feedback and the reticle in the ffp with its associated information as regards the reticle was just about enought to convince me to switch to metric and also pay the high bucks ( what 2500 or so ? )

    I said " almost " . I have been a Leupold fan / user since they put out their first scope ( yeah, I'm that old ) . They brought a new level of performance to rifle scopes at the time . I feel like that they have continued to do so up to date ...................almost !

    I am very much on Leupold's side as an American company but they need to ramp up their efforts to stay competitive . I don't think their current offerings of laser range finders are a step in the right direction .

    The vxl ( shrugs ) I don't know either . In the current climate of long range shooting hacks ( I started to say afficionados but realized I didn't know how to spell the word ) I feel like that scope height is not such an issue .

    Leupold needs to offer a higher power variable as well , why none of us are clamoring for it is a mystery to me .

    Nightforce .......... as I said I have experience with them . There are two of them laying around downstairs as I type. Also one on the Lazz I sent to Kirby . I am sure the etched reticle is a good idea but it is a teensy bit thin for me for hunting early and late , illuminated reticle notwithstanding .

    Unles certain capital ventures pan out for me I doubt I will ever own a S&amp;B. Nightforce is a viable choice as far as cost goes but there are the points I raised to think about .

    Leupold , even though they are not " getting it " at this time is still a good choice and I hope they will gwet it and step up to the plate in the near future .

    Well, at the current rate of server interaction that longwinded monologue took about 5 minutes to get to the point of being able to type it and I ain't saying how long to type .

    Jim B.
     
  9. wildcat

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    Buffalobob, I have just the medicine for that comb problem, it's called a McMillan A-5 with thumbwheel cheek piece. Buffalobob is right about the high comb with 56mm objective.
     
  10. jwp475

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    I have 3 of the 5 NXS scopes a 2.5X10X24 3 of the 3.5X15X50 and 1 of the 5.5X22X50 I like the 3.5X15 the best as an all round hunting and shooting scope all of mine have the NP-R2 reticles in them. I am 55 and have been quite pleased with the 50MM objectives, I can't say if there is much improvement in low light with the 56MM as I have never used one I am extremely happy with the NXS scopes... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
  11. murf

    murf Well-Known Member

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    You will not regret buying a NXS!!!
     
  12. BountyHunter

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    You can use the TDS to shoot about 800. I tuned up a 300 Hart (SST 180s at 3200fps, which is close to the RUM) with 6-18 TDS. Swarovski can give you the dimensions of the TDS at two powers where at the lower power you can reach the longer distances. I simply wrote the exact yardages down on a 3x5 card with the power setting and laminated it. I used my chrono and exbal to work out the exact yardages. These were later confirmed in actual shots at distances.

    My brother took 4 deer last year with it (after some practice on milk jugs) from 350-700 yards.


    BH
     
  13. älg

    älg Well-Known Member

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    SHW, dont throw away your swaro so fast. You can make long shots only limite by the reticle subtension or the available height correction that your scope allows. Unscrew the turret caps and turn them... you´ll be able to shoot much much farther than 300. Of course it is not a tactical scope, my 3-12x50 is good up to over 600 yds, with small targets.Does your swaro have a zero signal in the scope turret???
     
  14. SHW

    SHW Active Member

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    Picked the SF II up today &amp; had a jewel trigger installed before I left the shop. Mounted a extra 4X12X50 Swaro TDS in Talleys that I had in the safe. Will take it to the range as soon as work allows. I will probably not be happy until I try a Nightforce.

    The only thing that I am concerned about is should I get the 3.5X15X50 or the 5.5X22X50. The 5.5 may be to high of a power for the close shots. How much will the higher power (22X)help on the 700 to 800 yd shots?

    Also how will the Talley mounts be for the nightforce? They are not tactical style mounts but I have good luck with them on four other rifles.

    I have decided to go with 5omm objective, due to the fact that most of my other rifles have 50 Obj's &amp; the cheek weld should be the same.