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<blockquote data-quote="azsugarbear" data-source="post: 1447834" data-attributes="member: 4809"><p>Approx. 5 years ago, I had a friend who wanted to get into the long range game. From personal experience, I had noticed the increase in poor accuracy coming from Remington rifles over the past 30 years. However, I had always felt their Sendero line was a cut above, so I recommended the Sendero in 300 RUM. </p><p></p><p>For five years we wrestled with that new $1,250 Sendero rifle trying to get some kind of consistency. Different bullets, loads, etc. Dropped in a custom trigger, re-crowned the barrel, re-bedded the stock, lapped rings (Nightforce rings, base & scope). Eventually sent the scope back to Nightforce to make sure that wasn't the problem. Never could get that Sendero to consistently group better than 1.5" at 100 yds. Remington's response was that their Sendero was "within acceptable tolerances". I know it wasn't the shooter because he would shoot bug holes when he got behind my custom 300 RUM.</p><p></p><p>We spent tons of time and money trying to get that Sendero to shoot. When we were ready to finally throw in the towel, we had spent the equivalent of a new custom rifle. My friend had a new custom rig built in 300 Norma Mag and is now consistently grouping 0.5 MOA with that rifle.</p><p></p><p>I'm not bashing Remington, just stating my experience. I was bitterly disappointed in the Sendero - especially since it had been my recommendation. Bottom line: any make of rifle can be a shooter or a piece of crap. As others have pointed out, you can even get a bad barrel from a custom build. However, the custom barrel makers tend to stand behind their product, so in the end a custom rifle will usually never disappoint.</p><p></p><p>In the long range game, so many things can go wrong. You will never master it unless or until all your equipment performs rock solid every time. Everything else needs to be taken out of the equation, so that when a miss occurs - more than likely you know it was you or your final calculations for drop and wind that is responsible for the miss. This is when you can actually begin to learn.</p><p></p><p>Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck in a fun and challenging sport.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azsugarbear, post: 1447834, member: 4809"] Approx. 5 years ago, I had a friend who wanted to get into the long range game. From personal experience, I had noticed the increase in poor accuracy coming from Remington rifles over the past 30 years. However, I had always felt their Sendero line was a cut above, so I recommended the Sendero in 300 RUM. For five years we wrestled with that new $1,250 Sendero rifle trying to get some kind of consistency. Different bullets, loads, etc. Dropped in a custom trigger, re-crowned the barrel, re-bedded the stock, lapped rings (Nightforce rings, base & scope). Eventually sent the scope back to Nightforce to make sure that wasn't the problem. Never could get that Sendero to consistently group better than 1.5" at 100 yds. Remington's response was that their Sendero was "within acceptable tolerances". I know it wasn't the shooter because he would shoot bug holes when he got behind my custom 300 RUM. We spent tons of time and money trying to get that Sendero to shoot. When we were ready to finally throw in the towel, we had spent the equivalent of a new custom rifle. My friend had a new custom rig built in 300 Norma Mag and is now consistently grouping 0.5 MOA with that rifle. I'm not bashing Remington, just stating my experience. I was bitterly disappointed in the Sendero - especially since it had been my recommendation. Bottom line: any make of rifle can be a shooter or a piece of crap. As others have pointed out, you can even get a bad barrel from a custom build. However, the custom barrel makers tend to stand behind their product, so in the end a custom rifle will usually never disappoint. In the long range game, so many things can go wrong. You will never master it unless or until all your equipment performs rock solid every time. Everything else needs to be taken out of the equation, so that when a miss occurs - more than likely you know it was you or your final calculations for drop and wind that is responsible for the miss. This is when you can actually begin to learn. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck in a fun and challenging sport. [/QUOTE]
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