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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 261159" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Dukester, First, on ammo and bullets. I would recommend trying a few different loads and bulets in a good hunting bullet that has good ballistic characteristics like a ballistic tip or hollowpoint. I would stay away fron soft points because they eaily deform. It's no big deal at shorter ranges but it may affect accuracy which becomes more critical at longer ranges. The Winchester XP3 150 looks very good as does the 140 gr Accubond and some of the 140 gr Hornady's. I would recommende trying the heavier bullets first as they will give you better down range performance. The 2 things I look for in a bullet for effecive range is opening velocity and momentum. Momentun alone drives penetration. I usually look for a minimum of 40 lbft/sec on elk, for a boiler room shot. For deer, if you have opening velocity, you have boiler room penetration momentum with almost any bullet . You should research your bullets and find out what their mimimum opening vel is. Many will be around 1800 fps. Some of the Hornadys open at lesser velocities.</p><p> </p><p>My first priority on choosing a bullet other than terminal performance is accuracy in my rifle. You should be able to hit a 12 inch disk 100% of the time, first shot. Next come velocity and BC. With the 140 to 150 gr bullets a 270 Win can take deer 600-700 yds or more depending on ballistics and take elk to 500 yds with a good boiler room shot.</p><p> </p><p>On scopes, I would avoid BDC's because they are based on one trajectory period. If you plan to limit your shots to 500 yds you can get a plain Jane duplex and use your post to determine your hold over, but I would recommend etting a mil dot and/or target turrets, especially if you go to 600-700 yds. Once you get past 500 yds, your scope becomes very important and you should invset in good quality. For range finding... beyond 300 yds I recommend a laser range finder. With a little practice you can learn to use a mil dot to range but the LRF is the way to go IMO.</p><p> </p><p>This is my approach and my opinion. Hope it helps.</p><p> </p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 261159, member: 11717"] Dukester, First, on ammo and bullets. I would recommend trying a few different loads and bulets in a good hunting bullet that has good ballistic characteristics like a ballistic tip or hollowpoint. I would stay away fron soft points because they eaily deform. It's no big deal at shorter ranges but it may affect accuracy which becomes more critical at longer ranges. The Winchester XP3 150 looks very good as does the 140 gr Accubond and some of the 140 gr Hornady's. I would recommende trying the heavier bullets first as they will give you better down range performance. The 2 things I look for in a bullet for effecive range is opening velocity and momentum. Momentun alone drives penetration. I usually look for a minimum of 40 lbft/sec on elk, for a boiler room shot. For deer, if you have opening velocity, you have boiler room penetration momentum with almost any bullet . You should research your bullets and find out what their mimimum opening vel is. Many will be around 1800 fps. Some of the Hornadys open at lesser velocities. My first priority on choosing a bullet other than terminal performance is accuracy in my rifle. You should be able to hit a 12 inch disk 100% of the time, first shot. Next come velocity and BC. With the 140 to 150 gr bullets a 270 Win can take deer 600-700 yds or more depending on ballistics and take elk to 500 yds with a good boiler room shot. On scopes, I would avoid BDC's because they are based on one trajectory period. If you plan to limit your shots to 500 yds you can get a plain Jane duplex and use your post to determine your hold over, but I would recommend etting a mil dot and/or target turrets, especially if you go to 600-700 yds. Once you get past 500 yds, your scope becomes very important and you should invset in good quality. For range finding... beyond 300 yds I recommend a laser range finder. With a little practice you can learn to use a mil dot to range but the LRF is the way to go IMO. This is my approach and my opinion. Hope it helps. Mark [/QUOTE]
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