new to bears

Discussion in 'Bear Hunting' started by ducmarc, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. ducmarc

    ducmarc Well-Known Member

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    i've hunted the va. wva. mountians on and off for 30yrs. mostly a meat hunter. this fall had a close incounter with a fairly large black bear i've glassed them but never been in smelling range. i have to say i've never been on edge like that on a hunt in my life. now i'm hooked. i had my270 with 100 grs partitions and was afraid i'd just maim him. so my question is what is a a good caliber and load(i reload) for brushy 150 yrd shots? i have a 3006/270/ and a 6mm rem now but wouldn't mind building a dedicated bear rifle thanks
     
  2. cowboy

    cowboy Well-Known Member

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    I've seen them killed with all 3 rifles that you have - don't see a need for anything bigger. With a good bullet and well placed shot you'd be just fine. I personally think the 6mm is a little on the light side but only because of the bullets. Black bears are not as tough as we'd like to think they are.
     

  3. ducmarc

    ducmarc Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the reply i was thinking that i might need abigger dia. bullet like something in .338 or .35. don't want to back away from building a new rifle.:D
     
  4. JOHNNIE WALKER

    JOHNNIE WALKER Well-Known Member

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    Your 270 or your 30/06 will give you more than enough power to put down a bear. Just use a decent bonded bullet.
    Remember that bowhunters kill them all the time.
     
  5. ducmarc

    ducmarc Well-Known Member

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    what would be a good bear bullet for either weight and designi normally use 150gr. nosler on the 3006 think i should go up to 180 the 270 not sure what to use. whats a better bullet for non magnum calibers
     
  6. dogbuster0006

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    If you wanted to shoot the 270 i would personally go with a heavier bullet. Any of the guns you mentioned would do a fine job with a good bullet and correct shot placement. If you want a dedicated bear gun a 35 rem or even a 45-70 lever gun would be a hell of a bear rifle. If you need a reason to buy or build a rifle we are here to help you. You don't "need" a different rifle what you've got will do just fine with the right bullets. Check the barnes tsx or tipped tsx they're a tougher bullet and would probably be right up your alley. I will be hunting blackies here in alaska with a 25-06 and 115 berger vlds, I've got a 7rem mag with barnes tsx for back up just in case a long shot needs to be made and a buddy will be carrying it.
     
  7. JOHNNIE WALKER

    JOHNNIE WALKER Well-Known Member

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    The fact that that guy is going to use a 25/06 should tell you something. With a good bullet out your rifle you will be fine.

    150gr or heavier out of your 30/06
    130 or 140gr out of your 270

    Hornady interbond or nosler accubond, or something similar.
     
  8. etisll40

    etisll40 Well-Known Member

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    You could re barrel the 30-06 to 35 whelen or 35 whelen ai. Shoot 20-300 grain bullets, it's just about as lethal as anything under 200 yds or so. It's an incredibly devastating caliber, not much can walk away from it.
     
  9. rdinak

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    Use a heavy for caliber premium bullet and you will be fine. Consider breaking the shoulders instead of the traditional heart lung shots. Tracking a wounded bear through thick brush is no fun...:rolleyes:

    I have kiiled several bears and the meat is a reflection of what they have been eating. Fall bears eating berries are great. Spring bears coming out of hibernation are very good.
     
  10. ducmarc

    ducmarc Well-Known Member

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    thanks for all the help
     
  11. Derek M.

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    I was not aware a 100 gr partition was available in .277. Is this new? Regardless, a 270 will work every time on a black bear. I've used my 30.06 on many.
     
  12. Derek M.

    Derek M. Well-Known Member

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    Next time I rifle hunt for black bear I'm using my 270 with 110 TSX or TTSX.
     
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    The .35 Whelen is a very effective cartridge within the requested parameters.

    The gap between it and the .30-06 narrows a bit with a good 220 grain bullet like the Nosler Partition.
     
  14. ducmarc

    ducmarc Well-Known Member

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    i'm sorry they were nosler accubonds havent shot it for a while had to go back and look.the 35 whelen is that an 06 case also thinking 338 06