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New Super-High-BC Flat Line Bullets
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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1133651" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>Why not the manufacturer provide full disclosure test data verifying their pie-in-the-sky claims at the time they bring their product to market, rather than making unfounded claims, and then the customers having to purchase and test the products at their own expense - only to find the manufacturer's claims unfounded.</p><p></p><p>Now there's a novel idea? Along the lines of Duuuuuuhhhhhhh?</p><p></p><p>IF the manufacturer doesn't have the ability or the equipment to substantiate unbelievable marketing claims, then they shouldn't make those outlandish claims at all. They should let the customer know up front that the BC, MV, or whatever other aspect of advertised performance seeming to be too good to be true, are unproven. If the customer want's to spend their money and barrel life testing bullets that seem to have good potential then there's no foul. In fact, completely fair. Honest as the day is long.</p><p></p><p>Matrix bullets is one of the few - maybe the only - small custom bullet manufacturer that's approached their bullet marketing fairly. At least the only one I can recall in recent history. All the others felt they had to misrepresent their bullets with outlandish claims in order to make a profit. This record of failing performance just gets repeated over and over and over until customers forget. And then it starts over again.</p><p></p><p>For example W3P's bullet marketing claims. Members spent money to receive bullets with advertised BC values that were incomprehensibly high. The owner told members of this Forum "<strong>HE DIDN'T CARE</strong>" about comments/concerns regarding his marketing claims, in all capital type/font. These bullets were literally going to walk on water. Folks ordered bullets. Some got bullets. Some never did. They ones that received bullets received bullets failing to measure up to the company owner's advertising propaganda. </p><p></p><p>There's always a fresh batch of consumers ready to purchase unproven bullets boasting lofty claims, and the folk that seem to understand that better than most, even count on it? - <em><strong>the seller</strong></em>. Might as well name the company Shooting Star Bullets. Flash in the pan marketing. Black Cat Bullets. One bang and all marketing claims vaporized. </p><p></p><p>I could go one, but most recognize the repetitive marketing ploys by now, and are probably already napping... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>At this point after all the failures to measure up, wouldn't it be preferable that the owner's not spew any BC claims at all, unless they provide full disclosure on the methods used to establish those BC values. Same with the amazing MVs and any and all other claims to fame. Full disclosure on the instruments and methods used to verify that their bullets will reach Mach 5 velocities, launched with nothing more than magnum primers?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1133651, member: 4191"] Why not the manufacturer provide full disclosure test data verifying their pie-in-the-sky claims at the time they bring their product to market, rather than making unfounded claims, and then the customers having to purchase and test the products at their own expense - only to find the manufacturer's claims unfounded. Now there's a novel idea? Along the lines of Duuuuuuhhhhhhh? IF the manufacturer doesn't have the ability or the equipment to substantiate unbelievable marketing claims, then they shouldn't make those outlandish claims at all. They should let the customer know up front that the BC, MV, or whatever other aspect of advertised performance seeming to be too good to be true, are unproven. If the customer want's to spend their money and barrel life testing bullets that seem to have good potential then there's no foul. In fact, completely fair. Honest as the day is long. Matrix bullets is one of the few - maybe the only - small custom bullet manufacturer that's approached their bullet marketing fairly. At least the only one I can recall in recent history. All the others felt they had to misrepresent their bullets with outlandish claims in order to make a profit. This record of failing performance just gets repeated over and over and over until customers forget. And then it starts over again. For example W3P's bullet marketing claims. Members spent money to receive bullets with advertised BC values that were incomprehensibly high. The owner told members of this Forum "[B]HE DIDN'T CARE[/B]" about comments/concerns regarding his marketing claims, in all capital type/font. These bullets were literally going to walk on water. Folks ordered bullets. Some got bullets. Some never did. They ones that received bullets received bullets failing to measure up to the company owner's advertising propaganda. There's always a fresh batch of consumers ready to purchase unproven bullets boasting lofty claims, and the folk that seem to understand that better than most, even count on it? - [I][B]the seller[/B][/I]. Might as well name the company Shooting Star Bullets. Flash in the pan marketing. Black Cat Bullets. One bang and all marketing claims vaporized. I could go one, but most recognize the repetitive marketing ploys by now, and are probably already napping... :) At this point after all the failures to measure up, wouldn't it be preferable that the owner's not spew any BC claims at all, unless they provide full disclosure on the methods used to establish those BC values. Same with the amazing MVs and any and all other claims to fame. Full disclosure on the instruments and methods used to verify that their bullets will reach Mach 5 velocities, launched with nothing more than magnum primers? [/QUOTE]
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