New Rifle and have Questions

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by kbaerg, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. kbaerg

    kbaerg Well-Known Member

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    So I am ready to purchase myself a new rifle to up my collection to four (.45 A.C.P DPMS .308 Bushmaster .223). I am really looking hard at the savage model 12 VLP in .308 and 300WSM, and the Savage 116 in 300 win mag. I am curious as to what the barrel life is expected on a 300 win mag, and 300WSM, also does the heavy barrel benefit any in the larger calibers. I was told that heavy and long barrels are the way to go but am starting to wonder if this isn't the case in todays rifles. My main hunting species for now are deer, coyotes, and paper but would like to have something that will work well when I go on a elk or moose hunt. Any help is much appreciated.:)
     
  2. Catahoula

    Catahoula Well-Known Member

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    Either mag will work. I have a win mag that shoots 180 hornadys into a ragged hole. Great for bear and elk.
    Kirk
     

  3. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    I have a savage 16 in 300WSM
    This gun is a great shooter sub moa out to 700 yards using 180 gr accubonds
    I would not do a short action again you cant load to the length you really should to get great accuracy
    Go with the long action, Either 300 will perform well for you
    retiredcpo
     
  4. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    As soon as you said elk and moose, that put you in the 300winmag or 300wsm. I disagree with retiredcpo on the short-action vs. long-action. I think with either one that if you load the bullets out far enough that they do not fit in the magazine, that's not a big deal. You can single feed the rifle and with a longrange rig, I have never found single loading to be a disadvantage.

    When it comes to single feeding a longrange rig, I talk the talk and walk the walk....

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-300rum-mcr-70809/#post494570
     
  5. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    Trebark
    You are 100% correct you can load longer and hand load just not something Im will to do.
    In my case we had to push the bullets back 0.160 futher than I wanted, to get them to clear the mag.
    Again dont miss understand this gun shoots great for what I built it to do its it awsomeI just dont like the limitations the shorter mag lenght puts on me.
    retiredcpo
     
  6. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    I own the VLP. It is a great rifle. I would definitely go with the 300WSM for your application. I have shot mine in .308 and 300WSM (I switched barrels). I think you will be very pleased with the accuracy of the rifle. I love Savage rifles.

    Tank
     
  7. kbaerg

    kbaerg Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info:) I think i may end up going the 300 WSM route, one more question what can a person expect for barrel life on the savage 300WSM and does the heavy barrel benfit. I'm on my Second barrel on my DPMS. (I like to shoot a lot) gun)
     
  8. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    Well good luck with the project
    My 300 wsm load is 63 gr of H4350 with Win brass and win mag primmers
    pushing 180 gr accubonds
    My OAL is 2.860 My average FPS is 2862 with a SD of 9.66
    As for barrel life I cant really say I only shoot a few hundred a year I have been shooting this load for about 5 years now
    Good luck
    Lets us know how things go
    Retiredcpo
     
  9. kbaerg

    kbaerg Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again for the info. I have another question for anyone. I am looking at the savages and the weather warrior 16/116 300WSM has a 24" barrel and the 12 VLP DBM 300WSM has a 26" barrel. Both are a 1in 10" twist. Will 2" in barrel length make any difference.
     
  10. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    2" of barrel will yield ~40fps increase in velocity. That is not significant short range, but it will make a difference at 1000. Personally, I would go 26 and would prefer 28.