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<blockquote data-quote="Buano" data-source="post: 435813" data-attributes="member: 21641"><p>Amazingly, it appears WE are all in agreement. Ballistic reticles are not "the problem", people believing that a ballistic reticle is all they need to shoot a muley at 750 yards is THE PROBLEM. Horus used to have a simulator on their website where you can calculate holds for various distances with their reticles & you can see if that's something you might want in your scope. When I tried it I liked it — a lot. Others I know have not liked it. To each his own. I believe Nightforce is offering the Velocity 1,000 reticle only because with it they do not have to give Horus a licensing fee & because of marketing done by other scope manufacturers have done for their ballistic reticles. The Velocity 1,000 is still valid, so long as a person knows what ranges the scope demarcations correspond to WITH THEIR RIFLE under actual hunt conditions.</p><p></p><p>I believe we need a book to hand people, "The Idiot's Guide to Long Range Marksmanship". In it we could summarize what it takes to make a rifle accurate beyond 500 yards & what it takes to reliably hit targets from 600 yards to more than a mile away. In theory long-range marksmanship is not that complicated — so long as every variable is removed from the process. Removing those variables is THE issue in long-range marksmanship, and it's why most hunters I know should never shoot at game more than 200 yards away.</p><p></p><p>When I try to explain long range hunting to a novice it's fairly easy to show bullet drop at various distances & under various conditions. What's hard to show is the effect of wind since the wind can only be estimated over this distance & can even be blowing in opposite directions along the bullet path. Once they get a basic understanding of wind doping they have newfound respect for long-range marksmanship. At that point most know they are not interested in learning what they would need to learn and spending what they would need to spend for long range marksmanship. A few, those with our mental health issues, are intrigued by the challenge & want to learn to do it right. Those we welcome with open arms!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buano, post: 435813, member: 21641"] Amazingly, it appears WE are all in agreement. Ballistic reticles are not "the problem", people believing that a ballistic reticle is all they need to shoot a muley at 750 yards is THE PROBLEM. Horus used to have a simulator on their website where you can calculate holds for various distances with their reticles & you can see if that's something you might want in your scope. When I tried it I liked it — a lot. Others I know have not liked it. To each his own. I believe Nightforce is offering the Velocity 1,000 reticle only because with it they do not have to give Horus a licensing fee & because of marketing done by other scope manufacturers have done for their ballistic reticles. The Velocity 1,000 is still valid, so long as a person knows what ranges the scope demarcations correspond to WITH THEIR RIFLE under actual hunt conditions. I believe we need a book to hand people, "The Idiot's Guide to Long Range Marksmanship". In it we could summarize what it takes to make a rifle accurate beyond 500 yards & what it takes to reliably hit targets from 600 yards to more than a mile away. In theory long-range marksmanship is not that complicated — so long as every variable is removed from the process. Removing those variables is THE issue in long-range marksmanship, and it's why most hunters I know should never shoot at game more than 200 yards away. When I try to explain long range hunting to a novice it's fairly easy to show bullet drop at various distances & under various conditions. What's hard to show is the effect of wind since the wind can only be estimated over this distance & can even be blowing in opposite directions along the bullet path. Once they get a basic understanding of wind doping they have newfound respect for long-range marksmanship. At that point most know they are not interested in learning what they would need to learn and spending what they would need to spend for long range marksmanship. A few, those with our mental health issues, are intrigued by the challenge & want to learn to do it right. Those we welcome with open arms! [/QUOTE]
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