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New Leupolds's Boone & Crocket Reticle
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<blockquote data-quote="Jake in NC" data-source="post: 18068" data-attributes="member: 878"><p><strong>Re: New Leupolds\'s Boone & Crocket Reticle</strong></p><p></p><p>"..<em>Any cartridge's trajectory with a given bullet is MV and BC dependant, so if you've got a combo that doesn't integrate with the spacing values throughout the B&C reticle, you're essentially screwed</em>.."</p><p></p><p>Howdy-do, Brentmeister.. As usual, I'll take the devil's advocate position.. Being one who has owned both styles of reticle I can't see why it is that you have such loathing for trajectory based reticles.. A quick study of ballistic s/w will reveal that there's not a minute's difference (ballistic pun intended) in a wide variety of bullets out to 500 yards.. And at 600 there's just over a minute difference.. I used a 22-250 50gr VMax(BC .242), 6mmAI 75gr VMax(BC .330) and a .280AI 162gr AMax(BC .625) for comparison.. These are all loads from rifles I have owned and not "guestimated" factory numbers.. Out to 300 yards there's not enough difference to sweat.. At 500 yards the difference in POI is within 4" for all three.. At 600 the difference is a little over a minute with the little 50 grainer falling off and screwing the curve.. (Whatchya gonna shoot at 600 with a 50gr VMax anyhoo.?) The "better BC'd" bullets are still well within a minute of each other.. Easy enough to allow for with a little real field practice.. </p><p>.. I know we spent a lot of cash on the NF's but truth is they ain't all that and a bag'o'chips.. Mine was not calibrated $1400 worth I can tell ya that for **** sure.. <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> <img src="http://images/icons/mad.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p>.. These trajectory based reticles are meant for general guidelines and reference points for your <em><strong>average hunter and cartridges</strong></em>.. And IMO will probably still require more practice time than I've seen the "average hunter" is willing to put into this hobby for shooting past 300 yards.. BUT.. I have seen it used to vastly improve the ability and desire of some "average hunters" at my club.. The Burris ballistic plex is starting to be used regularly and most of these guys <em>are</em>shooting 270's and the like (**GASP** <img src="http://images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> How droll) .. I may try one of these Leupold reticles in the near future and I'm confident that it can be as effectively employed as the NP-R2 <em>for my style of hunting</em>with a proper amount of practice to limited yardages.. For gfetting on out I still prefer clicking.. d:^) JiNC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jake in NC, post: 18068, member: 878"] [b]Re: New Leupolds\'s Boone & Crocket Reticle[/b] "..[I]Any cartridge's trajectory with a given bullet is MV and BC dependant, so if you've got a combo that doesn't integrate with the spacing values throughout the B&C reticle, you're essentially screwed[/I].." Howdy-do, Brentmeister.. As usual, I'll take the devil's advocate position.. Being one who has owned both styles of reticle I can't see why it is that you have such loathing for trajectory based reticles.. A quick study of ballistic s/w will reveal that there's not a minute's difference (ballistic pun intended) in a wide variety of bullets out to 500 yards.. And at 600 there's just over a minute difference.. I used a 22-250 50gr VMax(BC .242), 6mmAI 75gr VMax(BC .330) and a .280AI 162gr AMax(BC .625) for comparison.. These are all loads from rifles I have owned and not "guestimated" factory numbers.. Out to 300 yards there's not enough difference to sweat.. At 500 yards the difference in POI is within 4" for all three.. At 600 the difference is a little over a minute with the little 50 grainer falling off and screwing the curve.. (Whatchya gonna shoot at 600 with a 50gr VMax anyhoo.?) The "better BC'd" bullets are still well within a minute of each other.. Easy enough to allow for with a little real field practice.. .. I know we spent a lot of cash on the NF's but truth is they ain't all that and a bag'o'chips.. Mine was not calibrated $1400 worth I can tell ya that for **** sure.. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] .. These trajectory based reticles are meant for general guidelines and reference points for your [I][B]average hunter and cartridges[/B][/I].. And IMO will probably still require more practice time than I've seen the "average hunter" is willing to put into this hobby for shooting past 300 yards.. BUT.. I have seen it used to vastly improve the ability and desire of some "average hunters" at my club.. The Burris ballistic plex is starting to be used regularly and most of these guys [I]are[/I]shooting 270's and the like (**GASP** [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] How droll) .. I may try one of these Leupold reticles in the near future and I'm confident that it can be as effectively employed as the NP-R2 [I]for my style of hunting[/I]with a proper amount of practice to limited yardages.. For gfetting on out I still prefer clicking.. d:^) JiNC [/QUOTE]
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