I just got a new Bowtech Patriot and man is it a sweet bow. I have been shooting it all week. Very fast and very accurate, no vibration and I haven't put a stabilizer on it yet or limb savers. I sited it in at 20 yards and from 5-30 yards I can use the same pin, very flat shooting, no more than a 2 inch change in point of impact. I am having a great time shooting it in my yard, why didn't you bowhunters tell us how fun it is to be able to shoot anytime you want?? I just got an archery mule deer tag and am really excited to take it in the field. I also got a Bull Elk rifle tag. Wish me luck guys.