need starter rifle

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by krake22, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. krake22

    krake22 Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    im up for any ideas i live on the oregon coast and hunt the brush alot and walk for miles in steep country but also have clear cuts where i can shoot out to as far as i want but 800 yards is where i would like to stop at . looking for a semi light rifle that will take bear and elk deer out to 800yards. im looking at the 7mm shooting 168 or 180gr berger bullets. but dont know what kinda rifle to get it in any help would be awsome thanks
     
  2. winmag

    winmag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,528
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Being a traditional fan I realy hate saying this, but probably something stainless.
    Having hunted in your part of the world a few times, I almost didnt want to go outside with my rifles anymore for fear of flooding the bbl:D.

    Rem and Savage are both reputable and offer stainless models, but again Im a diehard oldschool guy who loves Winchesters. I here they have the new one(F.N. made) with the M.O.A. trigger in a stainless model 70. I belive Ruger has a nice one also. Good Luck, and let us know what you decide.
     

  3. krake22

    krake22 Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    winmag yeah it rains alot over her last year during elk season with all the rain and winds hitting 100mph gust it get flat nasty that why i was kinda thinking the rem 700 XCR but didnt know anyone with one or how they shoot out to say 700yards or so after i get used to the rifle and can make that shot all the time
     
  4. BountyHunter

    BountyHunter Writers Guild

    Messages:
    4,803
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Normally the 180 has difficulty shooting with the factory twists so do not be surprised if it does not shoot well.

    The Tikkas, and Savages would be my first choices and in stainless. 7mm Rem mag if you want a 7 or the 300 WSM with the 168-180s also.

    BH
     
  5. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,226
    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    i have 3 7mm and 2 300 win mag. 700 yards is a ways for elk and bear. i would choose the 300 . they are real easy to get an accurate load for too. a remington sako or tikka
     
  6. krake22

    krake22 Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    thanks guys im lookingn to spend around a $1000 on the rifle is i have to so the tikka are prob thr best bang for there buck? i heard good things about them and the sendero. what about that new savage the long range hunter model 111. i think thats whats it is called?
     
  7. winmag

    winmag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,528
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Take a look at the NEW Winchester Model-70, Coyote Light! Stainless fluted heavy bbl, Bell and Carlson aluminum bedded stock, with vents up front. Thats one sweet rig! I dont know if they offer it in the 7mag, but they offer it for sure in the 300Win. And the 270/300/325 shortmags. I ''NEED'' one! And from what I already told you Im not a fan of stainless, but this one might change my mind.............Yep..........I need one. hehehehe
     
  8. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    979
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2008
    I also would recommend a 7mmRemMag. However, I would recommend the Savage. It may be a bit heavier than the Tikka, but the 116 now has an AccuStock (full-length aluminum bedding block, free-floated barrel). I just recently bought the one with the detachable box magazine, and I'm shooting 162gr. A-MAXes out of it. With a 0.020" jump to the rifling, I'm getting about 0.4" groups for 4 shots @ 100 yds. I'll post pics when I get a chance.
     
  9. Chopaka81

    Chopaka81 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    330
    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    One consideration you need to keep in mind is that you will be hunting in brushy area's and cross canyon clear cut shots. I do not think I would want to have a deer, elk, or bear run on me, not even 50 yds. I would much rather have it be dead right there. think about that when you look into caliber selection, my experience is that the 7mm's result in a animal traveling on you even with heart lung shot placement.
     
  10. mopar440

    mopar440 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    75
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    i would say savage 116 FCSS in 300wm or 338wm should be albe to get scoped under 9 pounds easy i like the tika but light rifle + big cal=big recoil at 700 yards in windy conditions a heavy bullet will buck the wind better and have some energy to put a hurtin on the animal dont get me wrong i hunt with 7mag but i dont hunt bear and elk just deer usually closer than 300 yard here hard pressed to find 500 yards to pratice long range at hear
     
  11. krake22

    krake22 Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    thanks for all the info guy. so i normally hunt with a 243 ,25-06, 308 but my go to gun for elk and bear is the 25-06 killed elk out to 350yard only shot 3 with it. and a bear with a 243 at 380 it was 485LBS blackbear. so im a big fan of shot placement . so out to 400 im fine with them but i want something for that long 6-800 yard shot and will not take the shot unless everything is perfect the wind, the animal broadside and so on. so you guys dont think the 7mm is the right cal. for this you think the 300's or 338 is the way to go..im new to the big bore guns so thanks for all the info guys
     
  12. Chopaka81

    Chopaka81 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    330
    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    As you have seen thru your own field experience, with proper shot placement a 7mm Rem Mag is perfectly capable of getting the job done @ 6-800yds. I personally would rather be sending a high BC 30 cal 200gr (minimum) boat tail down range on an elk.

    But then a year or two ago, Shawn Carlock posted a pic of one of his customers that put a elk on the ground at around 700 yds (or so) using a 140gr load out of 260 Rem rifle he built. The key was perfect shot placement.
     
  13. krake22

    krake22 Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Chopaka81
    i have never shot a 7mm or a 300win what is the recoil like on them i have shot a 30-06 and 270wsm alot but never the 7mm or 300's if i get the 7mm im planing on shooting the 168or180gr berger VLD . is it a bigs step up from the tikka y3 in 270 wsm for recoil
     
  14. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    979
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2008
    The Savage 7mmRemMag kicks more like a 270 Win/30-06 probably a little less. But this is due to the P.A.D. recoil pad. I was going to have a muzzle break installed, but decided not to, because of the minimal recoil.