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<blockquote data-quote="wildcat" data-source="post: 204819" data-attributes="member: 4557"><p>Ram, you picked an excellent rifle for varminting. Savage are very accurate out of the box rifles. I would go with the Stainless Steel model. Savage has surpassed Remington in accuracy, and I never thought I would be saying that.</p><p></p><p>The 22-250 will give you more velocity and as a varmint hunter I am sure RED MIST is a very important part of your needs. The 22-250 will provide you with a better show and will also allow you to reach about 150 yards more than the 223 with the same bullet. The higher velocity performance will make the barrel burn out a little quicker than the 223. However, my buddy shoots a 22-250, and he has about 2000 rounds out of his rifle. His rifle is still shooting 1/2 MOA and lower at 100 yards. He has taken very good care of his rifle and never lets it get too hot during varmint hunting sessions. He uses a 17HMR for the 100 to 200 yard shots and switches to the 22-250 for the 300 to 500 yard shots. The point being, while he lets his 22-250 cool,he switches to the 17HMR.</p><p></p><p>The 223 is an awesome cartridge for shooting out to 300 yards. If you have a fast twist barrel and shoot the heavier and higher BC bullets, you can really reach out there. Another thing to take into consideration is brass choice. Lapua makes excellent brass for the 223 and that is a big plus when deciding between these two cartridges. </p><p></p><p>I would probably go with the 22-250 because I love the RED MIST factor and a 40grn V-Max at 4000fps is devastating on varmints out to 400 yards. Which ever one you decide to go with, I think you will be very happy. My vote is for the 22-250.</p><p></p><p>As far as your scope choice, that's an easy decision for me, go with the Nikon Monarch. IMHO, the Nikon Monarch is hands down a better scope with better glass.</p><p></p><p>If you do decide to go with the 223 and your rifle has a 1-12 twist barrel, use Viht-N133 powder, Lapua Brass, Federal 205M Primers and a 50grn V-Max. This load seems to work well out of any 1-12 twist barrel. Viht-N133 is excellent powder for the 223, thought I would give you that info if you decide to go with the 223. I used 26grns of VV-N133 and a 50grn V-Max and it was super accurate and deadly out to 400 yards. Velocity was around 3500fps out of a 26" 1-12 twist barrel. "WORK UP TO THIS LOAD IF YOU DECIDE TO TRY IT" </p><p></p><p>Good luck with your choice and have fun.</p><p></p><p>W.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wildcat, post: 204819, member: 4557"] Ram, you picked an excellent rifle for varminting. Savage are very accurate out of the box rifles. I would go with the Stainless Steel model. Savage has surpassed Remington in accuracy, and I never thought I would be saying that. The 22-250 will give you more velocity and as a varmint hunter I am sure RED MIST is a very important part of your needs. The 22-250 will provide you with a better show and will also allow you to reach about 150 yards more than the 223 with the same bullet. The higher velocity performance will make the barrel burn out a little quicker than the 223. However, my buddy shoots a 22-250, and he has about 2000 rounds out of his rifle. His rifle is still shooting 1/2 MOA and lower at 100 yards. He has taken very good care of his rifle and never lets it get too hot during varmint hunting sessions. He uses a 17HMR for the 100 to 200 yard shots and switches to the 22-250 for the 300 to 500 yard shots. The point being, while he lets his 22-250 cool,he switches to the 17HMR. The 223 is an awesome cartridge for shooting out to 300 yards. If you have a fast twist barrel and shoot the heavier and higher BC bullets, you can really reach out there. Another thing to take into consideration is brass choice. Lapua makes excellent brass for the 223 and that is a big plus when deciding between these two cartridges. I would probably go with the 22-250 because I love the RED MIST factor and a 40grn V-Max at 4000fps is devastating on varmints out to 400 yards. Which ever one you decide to go with, I think you will be very happy. My vote is for the 22-250. As far as your scope choice, that's an easy decision for me, go with the Nikon Monarch. IMHO, the Nikon Monarch is hands down a better scope with better glass. If you do decide to go with the 223 and your rifle has a 1-12 twist barrel, use Viht-N133 powder, Lapua Brass, Federal 205M Primers and a 50grn V-Max. This load seems to work well out of any 1-12 twist barrel. Viht-N133 is excellent powder for the 223, thought I would give you that info if you decide to go with the 223. I used 26grns of VV-N133 and a 50grn V-Max and it was super accurate and deadly out to 400 yards. Velocity was around 3500fps out of a 26" 1-12 twist barrel. "WORK UP TO THIS LOAD IF YOU DECIDE TO TRY IT" Good luck with your choice and have fun. W. [/QUOTE]
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