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<blockquote data-quote="redneckbmxer24" data-source="post: 738224" data-attributes="member: 11459"><p>I have a T3 lite SS 223 and a 527 american 223. Both rifles are extremely accurate and one doesn't outshoot the other and both have great triggers as well with the single set on the CZ being a little nicer. Both also have nice smooth actions with good design but I give the advantage to the Tikka because of the 60 degree bolt lift.</p><p></p><p>I can't find one thing about the 527 I dislike, it's a quality gun from end to end. It comes in a very nice stock with a great magazine system. The mags are metal and tough. My 527 is also a bit lighter than my T3.</p><p></p><p>I do have a few gripes about the Tikka. First being the stock... it sucks. It is super cheap and very flexible. The ergonomics aren't bad by any means but I just can't get over the cheap toy feel. There's a few aftermarket options but just for the cost of the B&C medalist I would have $900 into a rifle with a plastic bottom metal assembly and at that point I'm reaching a different price point of rifles. That brings me to my other concerns which is the bottom "plastic" and mag, they are extremely cheap. IMO a $650 rifle shouldn't come with a plastic trigger guard and mag assembly. There is also no factory options and the only aftermarket is CDI which I'm not a fan of on a rifle like this. The mags also aren't cheap at $60-70. I've got no problem paying that for a GOOD mag but not a crappy injection molded polymer. The mags for the 527 are $35-40 in comparison and are metal.</p><p></p><p>The CZ is a more thought out and better put together rifle, it doesn't need aftermarket options. That said I bought my Tikka because of the 1:8 twist which no other manufacturer offers in a 223 and despite my dislikes it does what I want as a target rifle so I probably won't be selling it. If you want a 1:8 223 I say buy it if you can live with the downsides but it wouldn't be my first choice for a field rifle because of the plastic. The CZ Varmint is 1:9 twist which will allow you to shoot at least 69gr bullets and possibly some 75's and 77's but it definitely won't stabilize 80gr.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redneckbmxer24, post: 738224, member: 11459"] I have a T3 lite SS 223 and a 527 american 223. Both rifles are extremely accurate and one doesn't outshoot the other and both have great triggers as well with the single set on the CZ being a little nicer. Both also have nice smooth actions with good design but I give the advantage to the Tikka because of the 60 degree bolt lift. I can't find one thing about the 527 I dislike, it's a quality gun from end to end. It comes in a very nice stock with a great magazine system. The mags are metal and tough. My 527 is also a bit lighter than my T3. I do have a few gripes about the Tikka. First being the stock... it sucks. It is super cheap and very flexible. The ergonomics aren't bad by any means but I just can't get over the cheap toy feel. There's a few aftermarket options but just for the cost of the B&C medalist I would have $900 into a rifle with a plastic bottom metal assembly and at that point I'm reaching a different price point of rifles. That brings me to my other concerns which is the bottom "plastic" and mag, they are extremely cheap. IMO a $650 rifle shouldn't come with a plastic trigger guard and mag assembly. There is also no factory options and the only aftermarket is CDI which I'm not a fan of on a rifle like this. The mags also aren't cheap at $60-70. I've got no problem paying that for a GOOD mag but not a crappy injection molded polymer. The mags for the 527 are $35-40 in comparison and are metal. The CZ is a more thought out and better put together rifle, it doesn't need aftermarket options. That said I bought my Tikka because of the 1:8 twist which no other manufacturer offers in a 223 and despite my dislikes it does what I want as a target rifle so I probably won't be selling it. If you want a 1:8 223 I say buy it if you can live with the downsides but it wouldn't be my first choice for a field rifle because of the plastic. The CZ Varmint is 1:9 twist which will allow you to shoot at least 69gr bullets and possibly some 75's and 77's but it definitely won't stabilize 80gr. [/QUOTE]
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