Need expert advice on my Long range Gun build

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by jcode, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. jcode

    jcode Member

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    Hello everyone. I am new to long range shooting but a recent trip to wyoming to hunt some speed goats really got me excited about long range shooting. I plan on using a savage 110 receiver. Im going with krieger barrel in 7mm wsm. I think the long action will give me more leeway in head spacing my bullets and still be able to use the magwell for cycle and feeding the weapon. As of now I plan on using the choate sniper stock. I plan on having sharpshootersupply do all the work. Ive done a lot of research and they seem to get good reviews and are a savage action only company. Let me know what you think and any suggestions would be greatly appriciated. This is my first post on this website so don't bash my savage action please. I went with them because of their floating bolt head design. I know remington 700 is the most popular action but I believe savage is catching up. I just want to make sure im headed in the right direction. I do reload so ammo isn't a issue. Thanks for your time.
     
  2. jeff 300

    jeff 300 Well-Known Member

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    First off welcome to LRH.
    There is nothing wrong with a savage rifles. I have a safe full of them and every one shoots great.
    SSS will do a good job for you and Fred and his wife or very nice people. but working on a savage is very easy and most any one can do the work themselves. if you have just a little mechanical skills you can do it and they will shoot great. plus you save a lot of money all u need is a barrel wrench cost 30.00 and a vice. for the most part. For as parts go the 110 should work fine but do your self favor and run away from the choate sniper stock it has to the worst stocks i have ever had. There is alot of stocks out there that r way better for around the same money. Stockade makes a nice stock for the money. as well as the bell and Carlson's Duramax. you may want to check out savage shooters .com if you haven't already.
    good luck and lets know how it come out
     

  3. jcode

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    See that is the kind of advice i was looking for!! Thanks a lot for your input. Yes I have been on savage shooter it a great web site. I will look into the other stocks and scrap the ideal of the choate stock. I know they are easy to work on im just a little nervous about head spacing. I do have mechanical skills. I still need them to time and true the action and thread and chamber my barrel. I know i can't thread and chamber. I pretty sure i can't time and true unless someone has a step by step for me. Thanks again.
     
  4. 7MilMauser

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    On a Savage, the only thing that timing does is make the bolt lift a little bit easier. It is really just a little bit too. As far as truing, The savage has a floating bolt head which you already know. What this does is help keep every thing straight and in line. It pretty much makes up that thou that truing would remove. Some barrel companys make pre threaded and chambered barrels for savage rifles so as the previous post says with a few small tools, a set of headspace guages, and a little know how The barrled action can be put together at home. With a good bedding job in a top quality stock you will have a rifle that will outshoot what most guys are capable of for the cost of material and small tools.
     
  5. Moosetracker

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    As others have mentionned, why not just installl a pre-fit match barrel in the caliber of your choice. You wont be able to get a pre-fit Krieger but you can get pre-fits in: Brux, Shilen, Broughton, Douglas, PacNor, McGowen, Benchmark and possibly others. These pre-fits are a lot cheaper than a custom chambered Krieger and, for hunting purposes, every bit as good.
     
  6. BountyHunter

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    Fred Moro has timed actions normally ready to go at a very good price. Remember, the WSM takes a large shank action

    plus he has pre chambered barrels already so I would see if he has the 7 WSM

    If not, I would think Pac Nor would be your next best option.

    Nothing wrong with his stocks either and Stockys now has fully inletted, clear coated stocks in the Bobby Hart LR model for the savages for under $300 ready to go.

    BH
     
  7. jcode

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    Thank you 7MilMauser and your probably right about the barrel Moosetracker. As I am still in the planing stages the more I read the more my mind changes. I am verey interested in doing as much as I can on my own. I think you get more satifaction with the finish product when you can do some if not all the work yourself. What out of the barrels listed would you guys consider the best prefit barrels? Thanks for your guys help and knowledge.
     
  8. jcode

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    Hello BountyHunter. Does Fred Moro have a website? Thanks for your info and time. Also my action is a 110 7mm mag that i am rebarreling to the 7mm wsm will i still need the large shank? Thanks
     
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  9. 7MilMauser

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    I am currently putting together a 6.5-284 norma for f class comptition. this rifel will wear a Shelin select match barrel because that is what is available to me. All the big name barrel makers provide top notch tubes none is really a whole lot better than others. The guy that can answer your questions is Mysticplayer he can help you out if you can hunt him down. He is one of the top goto Savage guys
     
  10. liltank

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    Because it started life as a Magnum, it is more than likely a large shank. To tell, measure the length of the barrel nut. Large shank barrel nuts measure 5/8" (.625") in length and the small shank measure 7/8" (.875"). Stocky's stocks offer some great stocks for good prices. Check them out as well. Welcome to the red headed step child of rifles.

    I am currently working on rebarreling a Savage Mod 12 right now. I ordered my barrel from Lothar Walther. 28" 1:12, 6 grove, stainless steel, pre-threaded, pre-chambered (.308), cut and thread for my break, and shipped for $500 even and some change. They use a harder stainless (550SS, German Steel) that is to last longer than the normal barrels (Chromoly or 416SS). They ship quickly also. I know a guy that fits all of his Savages with Lothar Walther and he and his wife have won F-class shoots. Says a little something for their quality. Can't wait to get it. My next choice would be Shilen and then Lilja.

    Tank
     
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    I know this question was meant for BH but wanted to let u know I've had two 338 edges on small shank savage actions and had no problem what so ever with them. Do a few searches on savage shooters.com I've found alot of helpfull info there. I've got two benchmark prefit barrels right now and love them. I've also had prefit shillen and McGowan barrels they all are very good and very easy to install.


    Nathan
     
  12. bigngreen

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    Freds site is Sharp Shooter Supply. Sharp Shooter Supply - The Savage Specialists Don't worry about building a WSM on a small shank action, it's perty much what everyone has gone to for WSM's and RUM's and works great!!

    The Stocky's Stocks Hart stocks are my first choice for a short action right now, they have said that the long action is coming so I would watch for that!

    Stockade stocks are also a very good choice for a synthetic option, much better than the Choate. Stockade stocks are also one of the best with Savages, they answer there phone and do work in a timely manner with communication!! Stockade Gun Stocks - specializing in custom rifles
     
  13. jcode

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    Thank you all very much. As this is my first simi custom and rifle build i have a lot of questions. I have read some of Mysticplayer's post and they have been very help full. I just didn't realize there was so much in building a long range or any rifle for that matter. Thanks again. I will keep reading and searching. I will also let you guys know what i finally decide on. Thanks again.