need a smith to build a rifle

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by retiredcpo, May 18, 2014.

  1. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    Hi guy
    Im looking For a gun smith build my first custom Rifle.
    Im in Idaho.
    IM looking to build a long range varmit rifle most shots will be out to around 700 yards but I would like it to be able to get to around 1000 (at least at steel)
    I am wanting a flat shooting fast caliber I am thinking 6.5 creedmoor or something in that range, was looking at some of the Lazzeronis but not sure.
    Any one have suggestion on a good builder.
    thanks
    retiredcpo
     
  2. sable tireur

    sable tireur Well-Known Member

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    retiredcpo,

    Do you reload, can you perform minor modifications to brass such as neck turning or do you plan on using factory brass or loads?

    Asking for a gunsmith recommendation will net you dozens of opinions about who, where and why. The best are all booked for 6 months at least, some upwards of 9 months to a year depending. Every shooting/hunting website has their favorites so visiting several sites will get you a broader selection of builders. Don't forget to check barrel makers either since some like Hart will build a very nice, accurate rifle using their barrels of course. Or maybe action makers such Kelbly's.

    My suggestion for a cartridge is based on 3 years experience shooting the 6.5mm RSAUM for long range hunting, varmints and competition. There is some brass prep necessary for necking 7mm RSAUM brass down and turning the necks a little but once that's done, it's just a matter of standard reloading practices.

    Using slower, cooler burning powders will yield high velocities as well as longer barrel and brass life. The case capacity allows you to use the heavier, longer, higher BC bullets for those shots where you need to stretch it out. I'm using DBM for most shooting, however you can select another aftermarket box for the hinged bottom metal to allow you to seat the bullets out a bit more.

    Enjoy the research!

    Regards.
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    There are many good midsize 6.5s that should do what you want.
    some more choices are,

    6.5x47 Lapua. 260 Remington, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 x55 Swedish, 6.5x284 Norma.

    There are larger 6.5s but they are not necessary for your purpose.

    The 6.5x47 Lapua seems to be very accurate and has the best brass of all, and you can buy it and the brass from Lapua.

    The 260 Remington is also a good performer (308 win necked down to 6.5) and brass and ammo is readily available.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. sourdough44

    sourdough44 Well-Known Member

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    I was on a list for 3 years waiting for a custom build, 22-250. It turned out well, 'birds eye' maple stock & all.

    I know you have to pick through any advertised, but I'd also keep an eye on classifieds, maybe on Armslist , The Varmint Hunters magazine and other sources.

    Like a lot of things, one often spends more $$ on a custom build that you can easily recoup with a sale. With a local sale you could probably even do a trial shoot before buying. Just an idea.
     
  5. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    Im starting to lean towards the 6.5-284.
    weighing my options really would like atleast one full custom rifle
    But I know if I do a factory gun I can save a lot maybe even buy two.
    Also considering a AR-10 in 6.5 creedmoor
    This is for my 50th B day so I think it needs to be special.
    retiredcpo
     
  6. Hired Gun

    Hired Gun Well-Known Member

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    The 6.5x284 is an excellent choice. I like any of these that can get Lapua brass. To get to 1000 bigger is better.

    JE, what makes the 6.5x47 any better than any other Lapua brass?
     
  7. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    Nothing at all. It is just one of the Lapua cartridges in 6.5 (And a very good one).Currently they make brass in 6.5 Grendel,
    6.5x47 Lapua, 260 Remington, 6.5x55 SE and 6.5-284. all good choices for what the poster wanted.

    I still use other brass when I cant get Lapua, but It actually ends up being cheaper than other brass because it last so much longer.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  8. Ernie

    Ernie SPONSOR

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    Best Long Range Hunting Rifles - Ready To Ship
    I have been shooting a couple of len's rifles recently all the way out to a mile they are excellent.
    Mac's Gunworks, Gillette, WY also builds number of my rigs and they shoot superbly as well
     
  9. deadlift

    deadlift Official LRH Sponsor

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    Don't forget the 6.5 Creedmoor, its very accurate and easy to feed. Plus factory ammo is available and that can be a good option if you run outa time on the reloading bench.
    Chris
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  10. Ernie

    Ernie SPONSOR

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    F-Class (Open) Rifle from Mac's Gunworks (284 Win/180 Hybrids)- 10 shots @ 800 yards yesterday. I had already got my wind down before I started. NEO Rest and SEB Bigfoot rear bag
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  11. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    Dealift I have not forgotten the 6.5
    My choices are down to the 6.5 creedmoor or the 6.5x284

    Ernie Very nice
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  12. deadlift

    deadlift Official LRH Sponsor

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    Those are 2 different animals, and both really shine! Thats a tough choice, if this is for whacking big'ish critters then the 6.5x284 has the advantage. But there is a down side to it, and that is it's too short for a long and too long for a short action. To remedy that prob run the HS precision DBM with the '06 mags.
    Chris
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  13. deadlift

    deadlift Official LRH Sponsor

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    One chamber I forgot to mention was the 6.5x280 ackley, Nosler brass is available in 280 ack so you don't have to fire form, just a simple neck down. And the benefit to that round is you can feed it out of standard bottom metal off the rails, eliminating the need for the expensive DBM systems. And it will run in a '06 rem 700 which are very easy to find and fairly cheap.
    Chris
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  14. IdahoCTD

    IdahoCTD Well-Known Member

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    I have 3 6.5-300wm's. I shoot 140's at 3230fps in RWS brass or 3300fps in Winchester brass in one of them and 123gr Amax's at 3385fps in RWS brass in one of the others. The third one is a lightweight one that I just finished bedding and have barely shot. I shot a deer at 1006yds with the first one I built two years ago and 2 elk with it last year at under 150yds. I've also shot quite a few rock chucks with the second one out to 400yds or so and steel a good deal further. The first two will shoot 3 shot groups under 3/8" at 100yds and around 1" at 300yds.

    The 26 Nosler is another option if you want a hotrod as are the 6.5 STW, 6.5SAUM, 6.5WSM, and .264wm. If I wanted good barrel life I'd do a 6.5x47 Lapua and shoot 123-130's 2900+fps.