Two years back I walked into a Pawn Shop in Lansing Michigan and there on the rack was a sweet .270 Remington with a Tasco 3X9 they were asking $450.00, stock was in prety good shape, well after I was looking it over, I told the salesman I would like to buy it but all I could spend was $375.00 and I was planing to stop in at a few other shops.... Hey guy! are you serious about buying it ? yes... OK! I walked out, took it to the Basement and cleaned the barrel and off to the range and it will put 3 shots in a nickel at 100 thats not bad. the recoil is nuthing my Daughter has it and loves it and gets looks from other guys at the range.