Muzzle Break?

Discussion in 'Long Range Shotgun Slug Hunting' started by jmeier1981, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible to put a muzzle break on a slug gun, or have the barrel ported? If porting is an option, would it hurt the over all performance, accuracy, velocity?
     
  2. Len Backus

    Len Backus Administrator Staff Member

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    I am going to get an Ithaca Deerslayer III with a ported barrel. I talked to the company CEO at the SHOT Show. They have this gun shooting 4 inch groups at 200 yards. The porting does little to reduce recoil but does reduce muzzle jump since it is ported only on the top. The minimal recoil reduction is because a slug gun cartridge develops so little pressure. For this reason a brake will not be effective in reducing recoil.
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Len that a break is ineffective and if you want to address recoil
    and did not want to send it off for the porting you might want to look at the
    Mercury Recoil Suppressors that you can install your self for $50.oo to $60.oo
    dollars.

    Brownells has them for your shotgun and they fit in the buttstock and work well.

    They are normaly installed in dangerous game rifles with lots of recoil.

    Just another option
    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. buffybr

    buffybr Active Member

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    I've never shot a slug gun, but both my skeet and trap shotguns are ported and they both have mercury recoil reducers in the buttstocks. Two of my hunting rifles also have muzzle brakes, and they both also have recoil reducers in the stocks. Accuracy and velocity is excellent in both of these rifles, and other than reduced muzzle jump, I didn't notice any other change in my shotguns after I had them ported.
     
  5. Moorespeedr

    Moorespeedr Member

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    Contact the folks at Angleport, Magnaport, or Seminole. I own shotguns worked over by each of them. I don't own a slug gun, but I would not hesitate to contact these folks about your problem. I recommend these three because I feel they would actually shoot you straight. All three have convinced me not to do additional work I wanted to do....which meant less money for them.
     
  6. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I suspect that porting a shotgun would INCREASE recoil. If the ports are effective at keeping the muzzle from climbing then it is reasonable to expect the full recoil thrust to be directly rearward.

    Just my thoughts - I'd be interested in opposing points of view.
     
  7. buffybr

    buffybr Active Member

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    It's been many years since I had my trap and skeet guns ported, but I don't recall any increase in recoil. My O/U that I use for trap doubles and skeet is a Browning Citori that I had both barrels Pro ported which is Magnaport's version for shotguns. My trap gun is a Browning BT-99 that I had Angle ported. I like the feel of the Angle porting best.
     
  8. Moorespeedr

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    It decreases perceived recoil. I am not an engineer, but I can tell you that it does make a difference. Lengthening the forcing cones also makes a difference and that is something which makes perfect sense from a pressure standpoint.
    The size, shape, and direction of the ports all makes a difference. Each company has a certain configuration for their ports, and they can all explain to you why their mouse trap is the best. In my experience, the Angleport work seems to do a better job at reducing recoil than the others. Magnaport does quite a job as well. Seminole does great work, but an Angleport worked gun just like it will have less recoil (at least that has been my experience).
     
  9. Spanners

    Spanners Well-Known Member

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    My Miroku has ported barrels from the factory.
    Shooting it side by side with the exact same model less porting, it is noticably softer to shoot and less muzzle jump.

    Those that say slugs recoil less must be using a different slug to any I've even used!!! I find them to recoil like 40 barstards compared to any other cartridges.
     
  10. Tyler Kemp

    Tyler Kemp SPONSOR

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    My experience with shotguns is porting reduces muzzle jump, but not recoil very much at all to me.
     
  11. dantrap

    dantrap New Member

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    I have my Trap Doubles gun ported for a quicker follow up (2nd shot). And it does decrease recoil. We shoot modified 1187,s with ported and pinned barrels. But the key feature we add is a high adjustable comb. The adjustable comb rasies the centerline of the eye to be even with the centerline of the scope. The gun fit and porting really reduce recoil.
     
  12. beefstick

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    If you want to reduce recoil, I would go to a gas operated semi-auto. The extra weight and gas operation will help some. You have to realize slug guns kick like heck and just learn to absorb the recoil- don't try to fight it. If you're going to shoot with a scope, get one with at least 4 inches of eye relief and make sure to mount it the right distance from your eye.
     
  13. dantrap

    dantrap New Member

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    Hey Beefstick, I shoot a lot, both in competition and hunting so learning how to absorb recoil is not the issue. The question was about Muzzle brakes and porting and there advantages. Overall for most shooters proper gun fit is problem for excessive recoil. Anyway the only time you notice it is shooting at the bench, when i am shooting at game I don't even notice the recoil. And i will tell you the brake on my 300 mag changed the way that gun shoots. The gun was fitted correctly, but still kicked on the bench. After the brake was installed it shoots like a different gun, really reduced recoil. So there you have it, proper gun fit and a brake or porting will reduce recoil.lightbulb
     
  14. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

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    I can handle the recoil just fine. I have no problem sitting at the range running slugs through gun all day, recoil has never bothered me be it a high power, shotgun, or muzzleloader. My biggest concern is muzzle jump and speeding up my recovery time for follow up shots. In my area during slug season there are a lot of drives and hunting pressure that keeps the deer moving at a pretty good pace through some thick timber so its not always a one shot one kill type scenario. I do shoot a gas operated automatic with a busnell halosight and a raised comb stock to help keep my cheek welded solid and in the right place, but even with that set up its hard to recover and get back on target when the target is moving full speed ahead and only giving you small windows to shoot through and your throwing huge chunks of lead like the 3" buckhammers that I shoot