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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 321999" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>It really boils down to personal preference. With the use of hand held targeting software, it really doesnt matter if you go Mil/Mil or MOA/MOA. I personaly like the Mil/Mil system. I hate the .047 difference between MOA and inch (ie: .25 MOA is not .25") Which at a few hundred yards isnt huge but at 1K it is if you forget to convert your inches of drop to MOA before dialing clicks or MOA youre screwed. Sometimes shooters dont use targeting software in the field and use a range card. Most shooters will have their cards set up for MOA or click numbers etc....The shooter then has to calulate something different when faced with a sloped shot. The answer is usually in inches. Then the shooter has to figure out how many clicks to compensate. A shortcut is to divide the inches of drop by the click value of the scope and then divided by the number of clicks by however many clicks his scope uses for 1 MOA. For example the MOA of 350" of drop at 1K can be found the following method.</p><p></p><p>350" / 1.047 / (range/100) = 33.5 MOA Alot of shooters forget or dont even notice that 1" is not 1 MOA. The mistake is 1.5 MOA. At 1K that is pretty significant. Around 15". Then in the heat of the moment a shooter often forgets if they multiply or divide the inches by 1.047. Use the wrong one and youre really screwed.</p><p></p><p>To me the mil system is just simpler. I know that if my bullet drops 350" at 1K I can take 350 and divide by 3.6 (3.6 is .36 X (range/100)) which equals 97 clicks. Since my scope = 10 clicks per mil, I can divide 97 by 10 for 9.7 Mils. Also for ranging, I find the math much easier to deal with using the mil system. Especially since most of my target critters are 18", the constant there is 500 (27.778 * 18" = 500) Then divide 500 by the mil value the target takes up and there is your yardage. There are similar formulas for ranging with MOA. I just never remember what the sequence is or the constant whereas I do for the Mil system. Also for the calibers I use, I find the Modified mil reticles (mil + .5 mil) work better for matching my trajectories than an MOA reticle. IE: 400 yards = 1 Mil, 500 = 2 Mil, 600 = 3 Mil, 700 = 4.5 Mil etc....</p><p></p><p>Again it is a personal preference and if you do use hand held targeting software in the field, it really is NO issue which one you use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 321999, member: 1007"] It really boils down to personal preference. With the use of hand held targeting software, it really doesnt matter if you go Mil/Mil or MOA/MOA. I personaly like the Mil/Mil system. I hate the .047 difference between MOA and inch (ie: .25 MOA is not .25") Which at a few hundred yards isnt huge but at 1K it is if you forget to convert your inches of drop to MOA before dialing clicks or MOA youre screwed. Sometimes shooters dont use targeting software in the field and use a range card. Most shooters will have their cards set up for MOA or click numbers etc....The shooter then has to calulate something different when faced with a sloped shot. The answer is usually in inches. Then the shooter has to figure out how many clicks to compensate. A shortcut is to divide the inches of drop by the click value of the scope and then divided by the number of clicks by however many clicks his scope uses for 1 MOA. For example the MOA of 350" of drop at 1K can be found the following method. 350" / 1.047 / (range/100) = 33.5 MOA Alot of shooters forget or dont even notice that 1" is not 1 MOA. The mistake is 1.5 MOA. At 1K that is pretty significant. Around 15". Then in the heat of the moment a shooter often forgets if they multiply or divide the inches by 1.047. Use the wrong one and youre really screwed. To me the mil system is just simpler. I know that if my bullet drops 350" at 1K I can take 350 and divide by 3.6 (3.6 is .36 X (range/100)) which equals 97 clicks. Since my scope = 10 clicks per mil, I can divide 97 by 10 for 9.7 Mils. Also for ranging, I find the math much easier to deal with using the mil system. Especially since most of my target critters are 18", the constant there is 500 (27.778 * 18" = 500) Then divide 500 by the mil value the target takes up and there is your yardage. There are similar formulas for ranging with MOA. I just never remember what the sequence is or the constant whereas I do for the Mil system. Also for the calibers I use, I find the Modified mil reticles (mil + .5 mil) work better for matching my trajectories than an MOA reticle. IE: 400 yards = 1 Mil, 500 = 2 Mil, 600 = 3 Mil, 700 = 4.5 Mil etc.... Again it is a personal preference and if you do use hand held targeting software in the field, it really is NO issue which one you use. [/QUOTE]
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