Meplat Uniformer?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by bowhunthard, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have any experience with meplat uniformers? Is it possible to take a .308" 110 gr. V-Max, pull the tip out (so it's about 107 gr.), and trim the meplat until it's about 100 gr.? I live in NJ and can't shoot chucks with bullets over 100 gr. in a 308 win.
     
  2. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    What kind of regulation is that?

    I have used a meplat uniformer before and it just might do the job that you describe.

    Kevin Cram at Montour County Rifles makes a good tool. Visit www.montourcountyrifles.com and click on 'meplat uniforming tool'
     

  3. bowhunthard

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    Thanks for the info! I'm gonna try it. It can't hurt to have that tool anyway, right? That's the exact one I was looking at also, all the other ones seem to be made out of delrin or plastic lol.

    Center-fire rifle
    .25 caliber or less: Hollow point, soft point or expanding lead core bullets of any weight.
    Larger than .25 caliber: Hollow point, soft point or expanding lead core bullets of any weight not exceeding 100 grains in weight.

    NJ's regs stink.
     
  4. royinidaho

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    New Jersey is weird:rolleyes:

    I have a Kevin Cram meplat trimmer for a special purpose. Very very good.

    I use it to trim bullets for re-tipping.

    What's your method of pulling the tips? I use the trimmer, carefully, as some times the tip turns.

    I'm confident that you will want to remove the tip, as you said, before using the trimmer.
     
  5. MT4XFore

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    By the way Roy, how are your woof boolits coming along?

    Jim
     
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    I'll put some details on the blog one of these days. It has really been a trip.....

    Landlords suck, especially in down town SLC. Believe it or not the lathe is in the bed room.:D Talk about a clean operation, the landlordess of the bedroom is tougher than the landlord of the complex.:D What a wife! Wouldn't trade her for the world.

    I'm fabricating the last fixture, I hope, to maintain required consistency/uniformity tomorrow. I never knew a thou of an inch was so darn much!!!:rolleyes:
     
  7. bowhunthard

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    Yeah, I know NJ is wierd... Firsthand experience :rolleyes:.

    I've been pulling the tips with a pair of dykes, is there an approved way?

    Thanks.
     
  8. royinidaho

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    Not yet. You're breaking new ground........ I just chop 'em off with the trimmer and the stub almost falls out. Some times does. Use a straight pin if it doesn't.:)

    Why not just shoot 'em w/o trying point the tip. bc will be way down but it wasn't much to begin with, and will be consistent. Plus it would be in closer compliance with the intent of the rule, it there is a decent intent. Heck, even with that little bullet you should be able to short half way across that narrow state.:D

    The trimmer is nothing more than a 4 flute end mill. I'm thinking a Wilson trimmer would work if used after the cartridge was loaded. Look at the Wilson trimmer and be sure the flute go to the center sufficiently to trim the meplat. It won't on mine thus the Kevin Cram solution.
     
  9. bowhunthard

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    My problem is that I have a Forster trimmer, and the cutting head does not have a blade all the way across (small gap in center). The bullets weigh about 107 gr. without the tip. I'm just trying to get that last 7 gr. off :D, therefore, (hopefully) "the Kevin Cram solution."
     
  10. bowhunthard

    bowhunthard Well-Known Member

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    The way they have it set up, it doesn't really look like a decent intent lol. Just tryin to make it a hassle, I could legally shoot a 100 gr. HP out of a 7 RUM, but I can't shoot a 110 gr. out of the .308 Win. ??? BC isn't really that much different, but velocity is. Even if NJ made it 110 gr. for the .308" bullets. You pretty much can't use any caliber over 7mm diameter... I tried accelerators in my .308 but they shoot BAD!!! About 4" @ 100 yds. for 3 shots.
     
  11. bowhunthard

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    I bought the MCR uniformer, and it will not remove the needed amount of material to drop the bullet weight to 100 gr. Just to let anyone else that might be interested know. The end mill is of a too small diameter, a 1/4" end mill would work great, I'm going to look into that and see what I can do.

    Thanks for the help guys, not your fault it didn't work. Technically it would be perfect, but the bullet tapers too fast.
     
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  13. bowhunthard

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    Thanks for the info. Believe it or not, I've already tried those, and the accuracy wasn't that good. Same with the Speer Plinkers. I'm trying to find a bullet that shoots decent, because I currently have some places for groundhogs that you can reach out a bit. I did find some 100 gr. bullets that might be decent though, I just loaded some Lapua 100 gr. Cutting Edges last night, so we'll see how it goes.

    Thanks again.
     
  14. Mikecr

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    SUrprised you could find em. Hopefully they'll shoot