Mechanical Expanding Points for Big Game Nationwide?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting' started by Konrad, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. Yes

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  2. No

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  3. Huh?

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. Konrad

    Konrad Well-Known Member

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    Not that I’ve ever heard this comment before but…I live in Washington State and I’m confused about the fish and game regulations.

    I do understand the State’s muzzle loading rules that make some feeble attempt at retaining a modicum of the traditional sport by banning 401 primers. I do understand the banning of “sights containing glass” or “any electronic device mounted to the weapon”. Whenever I watch Jim Shockey’s Hunting Adventures and he casually refers to his stainless steel, Leupold sighted, closed breech, 401 ignited rifle as a “muzzle loader”, I cringe.
    Yes, the projectile and main powder charge are loaded from the from the smoky end; however, that term applied to his firearm seems more a distinction without a difference.

    God love Jim!
    He has a wonderful show and is a great champion of the hunting sport but “muzzle loader”??? I’m just not sure.

    It is my state’s regulation of the archery hunting pursuits that has me wondering today. (I won’t even attempt explaining the myriad salt and fresh water fishing rule in this article! I have heard that mass of ink and paper described as “... needing a Philadelphia lawyer to decipher...”)
    Washington State allows the use of the compound bow. Say what you will about its faults and benefits, it is a money maker for the archery industry and our state receives much money every year from hunting licenses. You can carry afield a high tech, carbon riser, carbon limbed, synthetic stringed bow with the ultimate in light gathering technology sights using a mechanical release aid and carbon composite arrows with synthetic vanes in place of real feathers…but you can’t use a lighted nock??? You can’t install a tiny LED light on your sights either (another “electric device”).

    In my case, the jury is still out on the mechanical broadhead. There is just something reassuring for me knowing those nicely honed edges are always at the ready regardless of whatever ugly truth comes my way (i.e. those tiny sticks that seem to jump into an arrow’s trajectory about 15 feet from that eight point deer). I want my blades ready for action as soon as they arrive regardless of whatever else Mother Nature has done to foul it up…but that’s just me. Most of the rest of the world (including some places in Africa) allow the use of mechanical expanding blade hunting tips on big game.

    We already have minimum draw weight, arrow weight and cutting diameter regulations. I would much prefer the best chance of our archery nimrod making a good hit on any of our species rather than hoping he actually knew what he was doing. The main advantage I see in the mechanical tip is their propensity to fly to the same point of impact as the field point of the same weight. I believe that in this age of instant gratification many just pay for their hunting rigs with a Visa card, shoot some field points at a bag, buy some pointy thingies to screw on the end of their arrows and assume they are fit for duty.

    Regardless of whatever else the rest of the world does, I will cling to my two edged, tough, rigid broadheads.

    We owe it to our fuzzy brethren to dispatch them as humanly as possible and I believe that if a little more technology provides that extra measure of grace for the unenlightened, I say, “So be it.”

    What do you think?
    Should mechanically expanding hunting broadheads be accepted as “suitable for big game” nationwide?
     
  2. Dlewis82nd

    Dlewis82nd Well-Known Member

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    absolutely!!!
     

  3. royinidaho

    royinidaho Writers Guild

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    I'm the single Huh? vote at the moment.

    I don't bow hunt but think that any regulation that applies nationwide, or the agency behind it is evil.

    Let the States do their own thing.
     
  4. Dlewis82nd

    Dlewis82nd Well-Known Member

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    I say let the people hunt with with what they want to hunt with. If thats a fixed let them used fixed if it is a mechanical then let them use mechanicals.
     
  5. TOM H

    TOM H Well-Known Member

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    I think each state should set it own rule we can use fixed and mechanical and I did try them but found I shot the fixed better. It's kind of funny just pick up 100gr Rocket Meatseeker to try and on the front it guaranteed 100% deployment plus field point accuracy no need to resight.

    I think I'm the best judgement on what I want to use given choice we have here so I voted Huh
     
  6. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Roy on this one and I do bow hunt, X-bow. We have way too much gummit now, don't add to the pile.

    I like expanding broadheads, I have Rage and Ulmers and they both work well...and lighted nocks. Nothing worse than loosing sight of a bolt (or arrow) in the snow or on the forrest floor at 20 bucks each. I use Nocturnals and Burt Coyote, red for my game broadheads and green for the turkey broadheads.

    Actually, the only reason I have a X-Bow (10 Point) is I want to extend my season. Between the X-Bow, the muzzleloader (I have one of those Jim Shockey ones and yes, it loads from the muzzle so it's defined as a muzzloader..duh... and my centerfire rifles, I have all the bases covered and it is about hunting, isn't it?

    It's certainly not about gummit regulations......

    We would actually need no regulation if hunters actually displayed some common sense but thats asking a lot.

    The main reason I bought my own hunting land to hunt on. I dislike stupid.

    In retrospect, I'd have a recurve or a compound but at my age and degree of arthritic disabilithy, a crank up X-bow actually allows me to bow hunt and be able to cock the string.