McCarthy introduces "No Fly, No Buy" legislation

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  1. cjmousseau

    cjmousseau Well-Known Member

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    McCarthy introduces "No Fly, No Buy" legislation​


    McCarthy has introduced one of her trademark harassment measures, this time labeled H. R. 2401, the "No Fly, No Buy Act of 2009." It's stated purpose? "To increase public safety and reduce the threat to domestic security by including persons who may be prevented from boarding an aircraft in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and for other purposes." In other words, if your name appears on the same list as the one that delayed Teddy Kennedy's boarding pass, you'll be denied purchasing a gun. And even scarier, you'll be subject to arrest.

    When we last focused attention on Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (well, aside from her braying about Kirsten Gillibrand's serial betrayals not being despicably turncoat enough), she was trying to ban guns because they had something on them she could not define beyond "I believe it's the shoulder thing that goes up." That and introducing an Assemblywoman who wants to fight terrorism by banning .50 caliber firearms because their bullets had "a heat seeking device" that would allow you to "cook [ a deer] at the same time" you shot it.

    I kid you not. If you have not already seen these, take a moment and watch the videos posted here.

    Well it turns out there's a greater threat to the Republic than Assault Shoulder Things that Go Up and Shoot 'n Cook Ammo combined: Citizens who haven't been convicted of anything! You know, the ones our legal system defines as PIs (Presumed Innocents).

    To deal with that menace, McCarthy has (yet again) introduced one of her trademark harassment measures, this time labeled H. R. 2401, the "No Fly, No Buy Act of 2009."

    It's stated purpose?
    To increase public safety and reduce the threat to domestic security by including persons who may be prevented from boarding an aircraft in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and for other purposes.
    In other words, if your name appears on the same list as the one that delayed Teddy Kennedy's boarding pass, you'll be denied purchasing a gun. And even scarier, you'll be subject to arrest:
    Under the New McCarthyism, a prosecutor could send a gun-owner to federal prison without needing to show that the person had ever committed a crime, or had taken any steps preparatory to committing a crime, but merely that the person’s name was on list compiled by a federal agent and the person had owned, used, or tried to buy a gun. By federal law, anyone on the prohibited persons list for guns is barred not only from buying a gun, but even from holding a gun for a moment. A name can also be placed on the no-fly list based solely on information supplied by a foreign government—information which may often be reliable, but sometimes may not be.
    And as we've seen time and again, suspicion of being a shady character in the eyes of the government can often be something as innocuous as...believing in the Constitution. Add in McCarthy's resurrected rights eradication plot (that relies on accurate record-keeping from people known to lie about it)--and don't forget Peter King's latest attempt at subversion (what is it with New York politicians?) and you have a perfect formula for denying "legal" gun purchases to ...uh...practically anyone the government wants to.

    It's the "other purposes" mentioned in McCarthy's bill.

    Aside from the un-American outrage of denying a citizen rights before they have been convicted of anything, if a person truly is a terror suspect, what better way to tip them off that they are under investigation? That is, assuming real terrorists bother to buy guns from federally-licensed dealers...

    Which also explains why gun owners are being harassed with "gun show loophole" nonsense. It won't affect the black market one bit, but it will ensure the "law abiding" have their names and purchases on a record--and I thi
    nk all but the intentionally deluding or willfully deluded see where that would lead.

    What are the chances H.R. 2401 will go anywhere? Right now it looks like "sound and fury, signifying nothing." That's not to say the right convergence of government policy-enabled "opportunities" couldn't change things. If nothing else, it's showing us another item on the "wish list" freedom haters intend to go after if they ever consolidate enough power.

    But we need to be aware of all current movements from the enemy camp--and make no mistake, those who would disarm you under threat of force are not your friends.

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  2. jmason

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    It's been assigned to a house committee now. Fortunately it has a long way to go.

    Here is a link to those assigned to it.

    U.S. Congress House Committee on the Judiciary - GovTrack.us

    None of which are my reps.

    The no fly list apparently doesn't use SS#'s to differentiate people either. SO all you John Smiths out there are SOL.
     

  3. Autorotate

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    This had me rolling. Thanks for the laugh...there are getting fewer and fewer things to smile about with our recent Govt's initiatives.

    If anyone knows where to get one of these ASTTGUASACA weapons, I'd like to get my hands on one!
     
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    For those of you who dont know what a barrel shroud is.

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    SFY, I don't remember giving you permission to post my picture on this forum!
     
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    Who's your barber?
     
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    Steve Austin
     
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