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<blockquote data-quote="ss7mm" data-source="post: 167390" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>"au contraire mon ami". Created by gun magazine guys.......quite possible. I have no idea who first coined the phrase.</p><p></p><p>It means nothing..........Actually, because it is a phrase used by many, that has a definition related to shooting, it does mean something. See usually accepted definitions above. Unfortunately your definition is different from almost everyone else's definition.</p><p></p><p>it's all marketing crapola.......most advertising and marketing stuff is a form of crapola but, in all reality, to the majority of shooters in the good ol USA it does mean something. And by "the majority of shooters in the good ol USA" I mean those that might shoot half a box of shells a year and have no idea what a turret is nor do they even know that downrange ballistics even exist.</p><p></p><p>For the average, shoot it once and then go hunting in the fall person, if they understand the concept and where the bullet strikes in the dreaded PBR then they at least have one small bit of information they might not have otherwise.</p><p></p><p>Is it the best way to hunt.....nope, never said it was. Does it have any usefullness in the hunting field.......sure does if used properly.</p><p></p><p>Do I use it.......read the above post and you'll see that I dial for everything I possibly can. But, if presented with an ethical shot under conditions that will allow me to take the shot, then I will use the data and info contained within the confines of the PBR and make that shot.</p><p></p><p>Just go by any good ballistics chart or make your own......I have more charts, drop sheets, field test data and Palm help than I can pack at one time. But, whether you coined the phrase or some dim-witted writer of some $.25 gun rag did, it's out there so I say if somebody has a question about it then I'm gonna give them as much info as possible so they might understand what happens when they pull the trigger. If I just told them it's crap then how did I help them? And yes, if they ask about PBR I'd also bring up the basics of long range stuff and provide any help I could.</p><p></p><p>Why do you think 'ol Jack O'Connor sighted his venerable 270 in a little high at 100 yards? Regardless of what he called it, he was taking advantage of what is known today as the PBR of his gun and load. He didn't dial for anything but he knew where the bullet hit. Again, it hit somewhere in the worthless PBR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ss7mm, post: 167390, member: 5"] "au contraire mon ami". Created by gun magazine guys.......quite possible. I have no idea who first coined the phrase. It means nothing..........Actually, because it is a phrase used by many, that has a definition related to shooting, it does mean something. See usually accepted definitions above. Unfortunately your definition is different from almost everyone else's definition. it's all marketing crapola.......most advertising and marketing stuff is a form of crapola but, in all reality, to the majority of shooters in the good ol USA it does mean something. And by "the majority of shooters in the good ol USA" I mean those that might shoot half a box of shells a year and have no idea what a turret is nor do they even know that downrange ballistics even exist. For the average, shoot it once and then go hunting in the fall person, if they understand the concept and where the bullet strikes in the dreaded PBR then they at least have one small bit of information they might not have otherwise. Is it the best way to hunt.....nope, never said it was. Does it have any usefullness in the hunting field.......sure does if used properly. Do I use it.......read the above post and you'll see that I dial for everything I possibly can. But, if presented with an ethical shot under conditions that will allow me to take the shot, then I will use the data and info contained within the confines of the PBR and make that shot. Just go by any good ballistics chart or make your own......I have more charts, drop sheets, field test data and Palm help than I can pack at one time. But, whether you coined the phrase or some dim-witted writer of some $.25 gun rag did, it's out there so I say if somebody has a question about it then I'm gonna give them as much info as possible so they might understand what happens when they pull the trigger. If I just told them it's crap then how did I help them? And yes, if they ask about PBR I'd also bring up the basics of long range stuff and provide any help I could. Why do you think 'ol Jack O'Connor sighted his venerable 270 in a little high at 100 yards? Regardless of what he called it, he was taking advantage of what is known today as the PBR of his gun and load. He didn't dial for anything but he knew where the bullet hit. Again, it hit somewhere in the worthless PBR. [/QUOTE]
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