My last thread was a question regarding effectiveness of the 165 gr matrix bullet in a 270 wsm. There was a good suggestion of shooting into 5 gallon bucket filled with sand. I did not have an opportunity for the bucket, but a late season cow elk answered the question. 220 yds nocked the elk down but not drt. A second bullet was required. It was my accuracy and not the bullet. If it was a different bullet the elk may have wandered off. N570 and 3065 ft/sec puts a lot of energy into the animal. I will use a different case. The Norma case is to soft for my custom barrel and ejecting the case was difficult for the second bullet. A lot O S----t was on my mind. Next time Winchester brass.