Well guys, just back from a quick little hunting hunting trip, shooting in a CWD cull area. Shots ranged from under two hundred to slightly over 700 yards. Most shots were over 400 yards, which made for interesting shooting. No wounding, no loss, just 14 dead deer. Now getting back to the title. I must confess that our Sierra Matchkings, shot in my 6.5-284 (142's) and in the mighty .308 WIn. (175's) completelty failed to BLOW UP, plus they absolutely failed to PENCIL STRAIGHT THROUGH the critter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif This is very contrary to the what the doom and gloomers post. My goodness, what went wrong! One of my 6.5-284 shots was at 605 yards, hit through the heart, broke off-side leg, deer dropped like a spine-shot. What could be going wrong - that deer should have walked off and died a lingering death, or it should have had the on-side ribs blown clear of skin - just did not happen. Did we get Matchkings from a bad production lot? These bullets just don't wound like the experts who have never shot any deer claim. Hell, at this rate we will never get a two thousand (?) page thread like happened on some other site a while back. The 175's made 3-4 inch exits on the closer shots and one inch exits on the two longer kills - 696 and 705 yards. My 6.5 Matchkings did two or three inch holes for exits. Now the interesting thing was that there was massive damage to the lungs and other organs - the deer dropped in their tracks, except for one that ran about 50 yards with his lungs shredded and the off-side leg smashed by a bullet that entered the ribs high and exited through the upper offside leg. Same can be said about the deer shot with 168 A-MAX on this trip - deadly performance at different ranges. Not sure of distances as we had two trucks, two hunters per truck and covered a lot of ground. Deer were spooky, that did not hamper our shooting, we were ready for long shots. Highlight for me was spotting for our landowner host who killed two bedded fawns at 696 and 705 yards with his .308 Stealth, Nikon Tactical and Matchkings. Did everything like a pro - first shot killed the bedded fawn stone dead, no movement. Second deer got up and looked at the dead one, then turned and gave a broadside shot at 705. First shot center of lungs, deer lurched ahead and took several steps, getting very sick. Told shooter to shoot again since he was on his feet - second shot also a good hit. Deer down and dead. I called no wind at deer but slight right-left at 10.00 o'clock at our position. Told him to put on 1.5 moa right wind, was good call. Fourteen samples for the gov't in 1 1/2 days. Fair number of deer in cull area we hunted, nice shooting conditions, great guys to do the long stuff with. BUT, the Matchkings failed to let us down! We must be doing something wrong - all those one-shot Matchking kills! Ever see forteen dead deer in the back of a Chevy 4x4 - lots of meat for hungry folk.