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Discussion in 'Bowhunting' started by Buffalobob, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Buffalobob

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    Hello Marylou, Goodbye heart.

    As the song says, if you are introduced to the PSE X-Force Long Draw you will love it. I finally had it enough put together that I took it out to shoot it today for the first time. It has been at least a year since I shot any bow and maybe it has been two or three years. I have been shooting long range rifles and there just hasn’t been any time for a bow.

    First you should know that me and Marylou had a little problem yesterday when I was checking the tie off for the Drop Slide. Somehow the trigger to the release was touched as I let it down and quite a few of the speed nocks went flying around the den, ricocheting off the walls and furniture. I put some nocks back on in various and assorted places trying to replicate the factory setting. That was after I put a bandaid on my tongue where I smacked it with the release. Lucky I didn’t knock some teeth out. I still haven’t figured out why my tongue was hanging out there to get smacked in the first place.

    For those of you unfamiliar with it, the Long Draw has a brace height of 8.5 inches. It attains speeds close to 340 fps and is 80% LO and mine is 70#. So, as you can see from the picture, I have string loop, a drop slide on and a Spot Hogg Hogg It with seven 0.010 pins. Based upon some comments on the PSE forum, I threaded a rod and modified an old stabilizer I had. Later on I will experiment around with different lengths and spacing of the stabilizer modules. I did not have a peep sight installed as I wished to see how it was going to feel shooting it before installing a peep. I had some Gold Tip 5575’s already in about the right length from my old bow so off to the range I went.

    My first impression of the first few shots was -- FAST, REALLY FAST. Did I mention that this bow is really fast. You cannot even shoot at 20 yards. You will only ruin arrows. 40 yards is trivial. Only at about 40 yards is there any real need to think about your shot. Secondly, holding 14 pounds against a wall is so easy compared to the 35 pounds I normally hold with no wall. You can just stand there all day with the bow at full draw! Even though the cams seem to be weird, the bow is easy to draw and does not dump the arrow out of the little v holder of the drop slide. Only once did the arrow jump up and out and I think that was because I torqued the string. Once I got to shooting I never ever noticed the short ATA. It just does not seem to be a factor. I did not know how I would like the narrow grip but it really seems to help with your hand position and avoiding a choke hold.

    After shooting some arrows, I slipped on a kisser button and that helped get a good anchor. Once I had a consistent anchor and arrows were landing relatively well, I put a nock on the string where I will later install a peep. With that done I began moving back and shooting and got all the way back to 80 yards. At 80 yards I ran out of sight window and did not wish to begin adjusting the sight just yet ,so I quit at that range although it was clear to me that 100 yards was going to be feasible once I have everything adjusted. The arrows I was shooting had feathers and were angled so there seemed to be a lot of drop starting to happen right about 60-70 yards. I guess I better get the fletching jig out.

    It was just a wonderful experience today with the PSE X-Force Long Draw. I have waited along time for a bow like this and it is everything I could ask for.

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  2. Kevin

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    Nice Review, Great looking rig!
     

  3. esshup

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    BB: Great write-up. I'm looking at getting a new bow for this year and this comes at a good time. I have a short draw length, and I was wondering if the X-force would be a good match?

    I don't know how you feel about plastic fletching, but if you aren't opposed to it, look at the Bohning Blazer fletching. I chrono'ed the blazers vs. a longer fletching and it added 20 fps at 50 Yds.
     
  4. Len Backus

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    Nice write-up, thanks.
     
  5. Buffalobob

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    PSE is coming out with a new X-Force called "Omen". It will have a brace height of 5.5 inches and be extremely fast. If you are used to low brace height and short draw bows this might be a good bow. My objectives are to make a 100 yard kill with a bow so I need a lot of forgiveness and accuracy as well as a lot of speed.




    I have heard that that is true. The feathers are about 5 inches long and spiral. I also have heard that straight fletch Blazers did not stabilize well but I thought I would give them a try and I can always strip them off and fletch at an angle. I am going to test them head to head with the feathers at along range and also swap point weight to see how that affects stability at long range with straight fletch Blazers. It will be much like trying out a new long range rifle. I also think Dirtball may be right about spine and aggressive cams. Even with that much feather the arrows are not getting stable for 20-30 yards.

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  6. esshup

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    I need all the foregiveness that I can get! It'll be interesting to see what your test results are.
     
  7. nate-lab

    nate-lab Well-Known Member

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    what are you trying to kill at 100 yard and good luck kill it
     
  8. Buffalobob

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    While my preferences would be to kill an elk at 100 yards I am pretty well satisfied that I would be happy to just kill one at any range with a bow. Deer are plentiful and moderately easy to hunt with a bow and do not require all of the brute force of an elk. I expect that when it is all said and done I will be satisfied with killing a deer at 100 yards and an elk at any range. I would call that success.

    My personality and habits are to set a difficult goal and then work like a dog to achieve it. I seldom actually achieve my goals but I often come close and it is really interesting to me to try real hard. That is the way I find satisfaction and enjoyment in life.
     
  9. Kevin

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    I think you will find that the hardest thing about long range archery shots is getting the range exactly right. Arrows at that distance are dropping pretty fast and a little up hill or downhill can make a big difference too. After a few misses and hits I have had at long range the best advise I have for you it that if your game walks, after you draw your bow. Let down and re range. I have ranged many animals and had them walk in a direction that didn't appear to get closer or further from me but at that range it is hard to tell. Also when at full draw it is hard to asses how clear the shooting lane is. Be sure to look along the path the arrow will take and make sure it is clear.
     
  10. Buffalobob

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    This hunting season is far from over but I am already looking forward to next years elk hunting.

    I had been looking for some high spine arrows but none of the archery places keep them in stock. So finally I ordered them from Keystone Archery in Pa. They are good people to deal with and I buy all of my "unusual stuff" from them.

    So here is two dozen and $200 worth of elk ammo with a 0.300 spine. After I get them fletched I will work out the weight of the broadhead to put on them.

    This will be my first time using ACCs so I also got some of the ICSs Hunters being as I am used to dealing with them.

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  11. Chas1

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    Interesting reading, sounds like there's a whole lot to it. My knowledge in this area is...well I know what an arrow & a bow is and that's about it but I'm getting the impression in a broad sense it's very similar to shooting.
     
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  12. HUAINAMACHERO

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    BB,
    good luck with the fletching process and the shooting results. Keep us updated on your progress, good luck, thanks for sharing.