I got into a thread on 24hr about the 25-06 for elk. It expanded well beyond the original question and I jumped in by saying (in short)that if one had a larger caliber such as 30-06 or the like that they shoot well, a person has no business taking a 25-06 elk hunting. I'm not the best at putting to print my thoughts, but I like to think about worst case scenario and/or lowest common denominator. Not saying the 25-06 can't or hasn't killed elk, but I would hate to advise first time elk hunters to go out west armed with one. Distances can be deceiving and there are many who take less than desirable shot angles in the heat of the moment. I must admit to being guilty of that myself a time or two. I just get tired of elitists who say things like "I get sick of you easterners thinking you know about elk hunting. I've killed 25 elk with my 25-06/243 etc and never lost one." I've killed a couple and seen over a dozen killed (admittedly small sample) and I've seen them fold at the shot and I've seen them take one right through the lungs and walk off like nothing happened. I have friends in CO and UT who have many years hard core elk hunting experience and they all tell me to bring enough gun and shoot 'til it goes down. I wonder how many elk are wounded every year by being hit with marginal calibers at bad angles or are lost by novice hunters because they walk off into heavy cover with a hole through the lungs after the shot. "Well, must have missed. Never had a deer move an inch after takin' a hit from old faithful." I am by no means claiming to be an expert, I just don't think it is a good idea to take a small caliber hunting for large tough critters like elk in unfamiliar rugged terrain. Am I a moron for advising fellow Missourians to take a 30-06 or the like stuffed with premium bullets on their first trip out west for the majestic wapiti and leave the 243 at home? I hope not. Sorry for the long post, just had to rant.