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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 2528736" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>Well type of terrain will of coarse play a large roll as to how successful you might be in seeing your own hits.</p><p>Prairie dog hunting and other types in open terrain hunting would be a prime example of that.</p><p>However when hunting in tree covered areas like all the steep sidehills in NC PA. are, your bullet might not even reach the target due to tree limbs. Therefore a shooter who is always concentrating on the target, would have no clue as to what just happened. And thats just one example.</p><p> Low growing brush like laurel and various low growing bushes which are plentifull, are all capable of concealing where a bullet lands.</p><p>And guess what else will conceal a hit? How about the thing every LR hunter prays for, snow. A couple of inches is a god send for finding animals, and hits will as a rule not be affected by it. But make that amount of snow 6" or more and it can make bullets hits very hard to see even for a spotter.</p><p> Following the trail of the bullet wont give precise information as to the actual hit location unless the distance is pretty close,</p><p>but it will give information as to what area it will hit for someone who is following that in their glasses.</p><p>A shooter probably wont be seeing any of that, at least at the longer distances, and most shooters wont be seeing it at all regardless of distance.</p><p>Even a spotter can easily miss seeing that if he blinks or isnt concentrating when the shot goes off, because thats how quick the whole thing happens. And of coarse wind can dissipate that as well.</p><p>Mind you now some of the most successful hunters ive known preferred hunting alone.</p><p>But they had limits of five to six hundred yards as a max.</p><p>And for that distance with the guns they used they didnt even need a rangefinder.</p><p>My suggestion would be to go to a good place with various distance opportunities.</p><p>Pick out some targets like say a rock, a certain tree, etc. write the information down in some type of book for future reference. If you got the information by actually shooting at the target due to not having a rangefinder, write the click information down.</p><p>Next time you go there send a few rounds and see if the data has changed.</p><p>10 years later check again just to see if the rocks have moved. </p><p>If you have some good reference points scattered around on the spots you regularly hunt, your going to be in good shape as far as your distance data is concerned. It can be very helpfull even if you do have a rangefinder, as you wont even need it much of the time.</p><p>Mind you now im not talking about extreme distances. Certainly that adds another dimension to it, and would be all the more reason for having a spotter.</p><p>There is yet one more very good reason which is never discussed.</p><p> All we tend to discuss are the things that make us feel good about ourselves for the most part.</p><p>How many of you have been watching over an area for awhile and have located a few doe way over there near that point.</p><p>Awhile later you check back there and find those doe very alert and looking toward that point. A bit later, here he comes around that point with just one thing on his mind. </p><p>I will fast foreward to the part where you know you only have little time to get a shot off before those doe take that buck over the top and gone.</p><p>There has been alot of mixing it up, running around etc. with those animals. As any who have experienced that type situation would know.</p><p>Point is, are you absolutely certain your on the correct animal when you decide its now or never as for a shot? </p><p>If you think that cant happen, your living in dreamland.</p><p>There just cant be a better argument as for having a spotter when long range hunting.</p><p></p><p> .</p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 2528736, member: 12443"] Well type of terrain will of coarse play a large roll as to how successful you might be in seeing your own hits. Prairie dog hunting and other types in open terrain hunting would be a prime example of that. However when hunting in tree covered areas like all the steep sidehills in NC PA. are, your bullet might not even reach the target due to tree limbs. Therefore a shooter who is always concentrating on the target, would have no clue as to what just happened. And thats just one example. Low growing brush like laurel and various low growing bushes which are plentifull, are all capable of concealing where a bullet lands. And guess what else will conceal a hit? How about the thing every LR hunter prays for, snow. A couple of inches is a god send for finding animals, and hits will as a rule not be affected by it. But make that amount of snow 6” or more and it can make bullets hits very hard to see even for a spotter. Following the trail of the bullet wont give precise information as to the actual hit location unless the distance is pretty close, but it will give information as to what area it will hit for someone who is following that in their glasses. A shooter probably wont be seeing any of that, at least at the longer distances, and most shooters wont be seeing it at all regardless of distance. Even a spotter can easily miss seeing that if he blinks or isnt concentrating when the shot goes off, because thats how quick the whole thing happens. And of coarse wind can dissipate that as well. Mind you now some of the most successful hunters ive known preferred hunting alone. But they had limits of five to six hundred yards as a max. And for that distance with the guns they used they didnt even need a rangefinder. My suggestion would be to go to a good place with various distance opportunities. Pick out some targets like say a rock, a certain tree, etc. write the information down in some type of book for future reference. If you got the information by actually shooting at the target due to not having a rangefinder, write the click information down. Next time you go there send a few rounds and see if the data has changed. 10 years later check again just to see if the rocks have moved. If you have some good reference points scattered around on the spots you regularly hunt, your going to be in good shape as far as your distance data is concerned. It can be very helpfull even if you do have a rangefinder, as you wont even need it much of the time. Mind you now im not talking about extreme distances. Certainly that adds another dimension to it, and would be all the more reason for having a spotter. There is yet one more very good reason which is never discussed. All we tend to discuss are the things that make us feel good about ourselves for the most part. How many of you have been watching over an area for awhile and have located a few doe way over there near that point. Awhile later you check back there and find those doe very alert and looking toward that point. A bit later, here he comes around that point with just one thing on his mind. I will fast foreward to the part where you know you only have little time to get a shot off before those doe take that buck over the top and gone. There has been alot of mixing it up, running around etc. with those animals. As any who have experienced that type situation would know. Point is, are you absolutely certain your on the correct animal when you decide its now or never as for a shot? If you think that cant happen, your living in dreamland. There just cant be a better argument as for having a spotter when long range hunting. . . [/QUOTE]
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