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LRH and "The Rangefinder Revolution"
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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 2527931" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>Well with all due respect to an old experienced shooter/hunter,</p><p>this post is a perfect one (in my opinion) to challenge.</p><p>Not that i disagree with the ranging, or how the poster goes about the shooting.</p><p>But i do challenge the (observing impact and game reaction) comment.</p><p>First off, anytime a hunter decides he is going to be taking long </p><p>shots at animals, especially those beyond 500 yards, there needs to be an observer/spotter using very good optics for observing bullet impacts and hits on the animal. It just isnt possible for the shooter to (always) be certain as to where the shot went, especially under so called (field conditions).</p><p>As for observing wether an animal has been hit, thats even more criticle, as there is no way to know for sure what it might do or how it might react after being hit, regardless what it got hit with.</p><p>So reality is that were dealing with more than one subject where shooting at animals is involved.</p><p>And beyond that, not all animals react the same after the first round is fired.</p><p>An antelope for example is apt to be off to the next county with the first shot. Whereas a whitetail might sniff the ground where the bullet hit and allow you to shoot many more in his direction. Unless its been hit, then you wont know untill you know what it might do or did do.</p><p>Fact is that hunters hunting whitetails from a fixed location,</p><p>especially if they hunt the same locations year after year as many do, can get by very well without any rangefinder at all.</p><p>Am i advising they do that? No, i am not, as having one will make things a bit easier. But the end result wont necessarily be any better either. You will be apt to take one range, before the shot, after that especially with a moving animal there wont be any more ranging. Thats simply reality.</p><p>The vast majority of animal shots taken at long range anywhere in this country are going to be under 1000 yds.</p><p>And most of those will be under 800 yards.</p><p>How precise does your data have to be for a kill zone shot on an animal under 800 yds anyway?</p><p>Does your field conditions shooting position play any roll on how well the data works?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 2527931, member: 12443"] Well with all due respect to an old experienced shooter/hunter, this post is a perfect one (in my opinion) to challenge. Not that i disagree with the ranging, or how the poster goes about the shooting. But i do challenge the (observing impact and game reaction) comment. First off, anytime a hunter decides he is going to be taking long shots at animals, especially those beyond 500 yards, there needs to be an observer/spotter using very good optics for observing bullet impacts and hits on the animal. It just isnt possible for the shooter to (always) be certain as to where the shot went, especially under so called (field conditions). As for observing wether an animal has been hit, thats even more criticle, as there is no way to know for sure what it might do or how it might react after being hit, regardless what it got hit with. So reality is that were dealing with more than one subject where shooting at animals is involved. And beyond that, not all animals react the same after the first round is fired. An antelope for example is apt to be off to the next county with the first shot. Whereas a whitetail might sniff the ground where the bullet hit and allow you to shoot many more in his direction. Unless its been hit, then you wont know untill you know what it might do or did do. Fact is that hunters hunting whitetails from a fixed location, especially if they hunt the same locations year after year as many do, can get by very well without any rangefinder at all. Am i advising they do that? No, i am not, as having one will make things a bit easier. But the end result wont necessarily be any better either. You will be apt to take one range, before the shot, after that especially with a moving animal there wont be any more ranging. Thats simply reality. The vast majority of animal shots taken at long range anywhere in this country are going to be under 1000 yds. And most of those will be under 800 yards. How precise does your data have to be for a kill zone shot on an animal under 800 yds anyway? Does your field conditions shooting position play any roll on how well the data works? [/QUOTE]
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