Dad gum it! This LR stuff really fascinates me and has for many years. Had a .308 built for precision shooting at longish ranges. I even went out and earned my NRA "high master" for long-range shooting. Have blasted some 'yotes and some rockchucks at pretty good distance, but mule deer? Nope... 2008 buck: 230 yds 2007 buck: 20 - 30 yds 2005 buck: 125 yds 2000 bull: 180 yds All of those were good shots, but hardly long range. I've seen "shooter" bucks at longer ranges but have yet to take one out there. Two shooter bucks at 504 yards here in Washington - wrong property. A shooter at 440 yards here in Washington - I was on unstable terrain w/no solid shooting rest. A really nice Wyoming buck at 400+ yards, wrong side of the property line... Bah Humbug! So... How important is it to you to setup and make that long range shot??? I'm just delighted to get a decent buck now and again. Am thinking about doe tags again (shot several of them for a over the years) just to get the long-range opportunity. I always seem to find does on land I can hunt, at longish ranges - but seldom a buck. They seem to hide in the folds of the land for the most part and require a closer approach. At least from my experience.