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<blockquote data-quote="KYpatriot" data-source="post: 1027159" data-attributes="member: 48028"><p>I don't argue with success...if you are happy with the way your loads are shooting I wouldn't worry about brass sorting. We sometimes have to remind ourselves that we are shooters, not reloaders, so if your reloading process is so extensive that it is cutting into shooting time we could be using to learn the wind and refine our fundamentals of marksmanship then we are screwing up. It is rare even for experienced shooters to miss because of the inherent precision of the rifle/load combo if it is at least a 1 Moa rifle. That is the hard truth, we are almost always the weak link. </p><p></p><p>That said, reloading the perfect round can be enjoyable in itself so if you have the time little tweaks here and there can help. </p><p>Any headspace comparator is adequate. It works exactly like your bullet comparator except it indexes on the case shoulder instead of the bullet ogive. </p><p>I didn't mean to mislead you on the second cleaning- you must remove the case lube after sizing...I do this with a rag and you were using the tumbler again. I just think the rag is easier and faster but either will work. Cases need to be dry and lube free before they go in the rifke, that's the main thing. </p><p>I like the neck graphite because it takes all if 5 seconds to dip it in there. So the time investment is nothing and it helped reduce vertical at range. It may not help you at all...if I don't see the results on target I don't do it. </p><p></p><p>Ahhh cleaning, the great debate. The answer to any engineering problem, which shooting is, is " it depends". </p><p>A benchrest guy shooting in the zeros and .1s is going to clean often. I clean after exposure weather or if the rifle will be stored or not shot for awhile. My personal philosophy is that for the type of shooting I do I don't need to clean often. My 308 will go 400 rounds before I see any accuracy degradation, if then. I clean it because I can't stand it anymore. It is a factory rifke and after cleaning it takes about 20 rounds before it settles down to its tack driving self again. A good custom barrel will usually shoot consistently after cleaning after a single fouler. Some rifles, usually magnums, can be prone to a carbon buildup in the throat so you would clean more often, maybe every 40-50 rounds. But the rifle will tell you. Shoot it 50 rounds and see how it feels when you clean it. Go more or less depending on what you learn. </p><p>Besides always cleaning after exposure to moisture, there are no hard and fast rules. My silly factory 308 will shoot a half inch group after 400 rounds of no cleaning at all. No one would convince me that stopping shooting and cleaning every 20 rounds would help it because it wouldn't. That's 20 cleanings when I could have been shooting, and if it got it down to .3 moa there a handful of shooters in the world who could shoot the difference at 1000 yards. </p><p>My custom barrel/larger chambering get cleans more I don't want carbon buildup, and also they settle right back in after cleaning, and it doesn't take mch effort to clean them compared yo factory barrels. </p><p>Whatever you do, use a bore guide, keep grit off the rod by wiping it off each pass, never use anything other than brass or nylon bristles, and protect the crown. Poor cleaning technique can ruin a rifles accuracy. </p><p>I'm no expert, these are things that have worked for me. Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KYpatriot, post: 1027159, member: 48028"] I don't argue with success...if you are happy with the way your loads are shooting I wouldn't worry about brass sorting. We sometimes have to remind ourselves that we are shooters, not reloaders, so if your reloading process is so extensive that it is cutting into shooting time we could be using to learn the wind and refine our fundamentals of marksmanship then we are screwing up. It is rare even for experienced shooters to miss because of the inherent precision of the rifle/load combo if it is at least a 1 Moa rifle. That is the hard truth, we are almost always the weak link. That said, reloading the perfect round can be enjoyable in itself so if you have the time little tweaks here and there can help. Any headspace comparator is adequate. It works exactly like your bullet comparator except it indexes on the case shoulder instead of the bullet ogive. I didn't mean to mislead you on the second cleaning- you must remove the case lube after sizing...I do this with a rag and you were using the tumbler again. I just think the rag is easier and faster but either will work. Cases need to be dry and lube free before they go in the rifke, that's the main thing. I like the neck graphite because it takes all if 5 seconds to dip it in there. So the time investment is nothing and it helped reduce vertical at range. It may not help you at all...if I don't see the results on target I don't do it. Ahhh cleaning, the great debate. The answer to any engineering problem, which shooting is, is " it depends". A benchrest guy shooting in the zeros and .1s is going to clean often. I clean after exposure weather or if the rifle will be stored or not shot for awhile. My personal philosophy is that for the type of shooting I do I don't need to clean often. My 308 will go 400 rounds before I see any accuracy degradation, if then. I clean it because I can't stand it anymore. It is a factory rifke and after cleaning it takes about 20 rounds before it settles down to its tack driving self again. A good custom barrel will usually shoot consistently after cleaning after a single fouler. Some rifles, usually magnums, can be prone to a carbon buildup in the throat so you would clean more often, maybe every 40-50 rounds. But the rifle will tell you. Shoot it 50 rounds and see how it feels when you clean it. Go more or less depending on what you learn. Besides always cleaning after exposure to moisture, there are no hard and fast rules. My silly factory 308 will shoot a half inch group after 400 rounds of no cleaning at all. No one would convince me that stopping shooting and cleaning every 20 rounds would help it because it wouldn't. That's 20 cleanings when I could have been shooting, and if it got it down to .3 moa there a handful of shooters in the world who could shoot the difference at 1000 yards. My custom barrel/larger chambering get cleans more I don't want carbon buildup, and also they settle right back in after cleaning, and it doesn't take mch effort to clean them compared yo factory barrels. Whatever you do, use a bore guide, keep grit off the rod by wiping it off each pass, never use anything other than brass or nylon bristles, and protect the crown. Poor cleaning technique can ruin a rifles accuracy. I'm no expert, these are things that have worked for me. Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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