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"long range" scope challenge. What do you use
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<blockquote data-quote="linksmechanic" data-source="post: 294828" data-attributes="member: 7317"><p>Mike cr: I agree with you. I bought into the nightforce hype and I agree it's a great scope. Is it worth the now $500.00 more than my mark 4? No way. Maybe my 29 year old eyes are failing me but me and my hunting partners all agree that they can't tell the difference between glass quality in my scopes. Most of my partners had nightforce but are older and can't see the fine reticles provide by nightforce. To me they seem varmint like. Yes they are illuminated but I won't use that in the middle of the day targe shooting. Also there lens cap sucks. The butler creeks don't work worth the crap in the North idaho brush. Everytime I turn around one is open and the lens is exposed.My nxs has turned into a glorified bench scope. Yes I could run it over with a tank and it would survive. I don't plan to however. The mark 4 has proved itself in the military and with hunters and my next purchase will be another mark 4. The best flip ups ever and they are very repeatable. Yes everybody makes a lemon: One of my buddies from Spokane bought a Nxs a few months ago with a huge spec in the inside glass. Another one of my buddies from Nevad had a mark 4 that wouldn't track. He sent it in and usually they fix it. Leupold sent him a new one and it took five days! But to be fair Nightforce had a great turn around also. IMO there is no better glass than Swaro or S&B and if your going to step up that's where I's be looking. I used a pmII last year and tried as hard as I could not to give it back. It's a real piece of work and imo neither the nightforce or the mark 4 are in the same class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="linksmechanic, post: 294828, member: 7317"] Mike cr: I agree with you. I bought into the nightforce hype and I agree it's a great scope. Is it worth the now $500.00 more than my mark 4? No way. Maybe my 29 year old eyes are failing me but me and my hunting partners all agree that they can't tell the difference between glass quality in my scopes. Most of my partners had nightforce but are older and can't see the fine reticles provide by nightforce. To me they seem varmint like. Yes they are illuminated but I won't use that in the middle of the day targe shooting. Also there lens cap sucks. The butler creeks don't work worth the crap in the North idaho brush. Everytime I turn around one is open and the lens is exposed.My nxs has turned into a glorified bench scope. Yes I could run it over with a tank and it would survive. I don't plan to however. The mark 4 has proved itself in the military and with hunters and my next purchase will be another mark 4. The best flip ups ever and they are very repeatable. Yes everybody makes a lemon: One of my buddies from Spokane bought a Nxs a few months ago with a huge spec in the inside glass. Another one of my buddies from Nevad had a mark 4 that wouldn't track. He sent it in and usually they fix it. Leupold sent him a new one and it took five days! But to be fair Nightforce had a great turn around also. IMO there is no better glass than Swaro or S&B and if your going to step up that's where I's be looking. I used a pmII last year and tried as hard as I could not to give it back. It's a real piece of work and imo neither the nightforce or the mark 4 are in the same class. [/QUOTE]
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