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<blockquote data-quote="squirrelduster" data-source="post: 291832" data-attributes="member: 9736"><p>There is also a huge difference between a 400lb Black bear and a Grizzly. </p><p>Griz has a bad attitude in good conditions. </p><p>I too have never shot one but have watched quite a few and the power they have is amazing. They can move very fast and are unpredictable so to attempt a 500 plus yard shot on one in my opinion is not a responsible thing to do. </p><p>I was in Alaska as a salmon fishing guide and talked to several locals that hunted them and every one of them that had hunted bears had bad experiences. They scare the crap out of me. I was offered a job at a lodge in the Bristol Bay region and I asked if they had many bears and the guy said yeah there are tons. I asked him what kind of gun I could take with me and he told me you just yell at them and most of the time the move off. Most of the time??? What are you nuts.</p><p></p><p>The stories of how tough just the normal ones are they are once you irritate them with a poorly placed shot is not something I would want to track into the abnormally thick country they frequent. The willow and alder thickets are amazing. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line is you would need a big controlled expansion bullet and put it through both shoulders. Not something possible with a 7 mag at long range. The shot is not that hard but at anything over 250 or so you just don't have the penetration and energy required to drop him quickly . Lots of muscle and attitude. That's why the guides pack BIG hardware. The guides recommend 338 mag or above.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinions of course</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squirrelduster, post: 291832, member: 9736"] There is also a huge difference between a 400lb Black bear and a Grizzly. Griz has a bad attitude in good conditions. I too have never shot one but have watched quite a few and the power they have is amazing. They can move very fast and are unpredictable so to attempt a 500 plus yard shot on one in my opinion is not a responsible thing to do. I was in Alaska as a salmon fishing guide and talked to several locals that hunted them and every one of them that had hunted bears had bad experiences. They scare the crap out of me. I was offered a job at a lodge in the Bristol Bay region and I asked if they had many bears and the guy said yeah there are tons. I asked him what kind of gun I could take with me and he told me you just yell at them and most of the time the move off. Most of the time??? What are you nuts. The stories of how tough just the normal ones are they are once you irritate them with a poorly placed shot is not something I would want to track into the abnormally thick country they frequent. The willow and alder thickets are amazing. Bottom line is you would need a big controlled expansion bullet and put it through both shoulders. Not something possible with a 7 mag at long range. The shot is not that hard but at anything over 250 or so you just don't have the penetration and energy required to drop him quickly . Lots of muscle and attitude. That's why the guides pack BIG hardware. The guides recommend 338 mag or above. Just my opinions of course [/QUOTE]
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