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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 287939" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>Grit.</p><p>yes I am very conservative and I never said that an Elk could not be killed beyond 550 yards. only that the recommended range for the 7mm REM Mag was 550 yrds.</p><p></p><p>This is based on a lot of factors and is not just my opinion. Using the 180gr bullet you can </p><p>expect around 2700 ft/sec in a standard length barrel. This equates to an energy level at </p><p>550 yrds of 1500 ft/lbs (Minimum recommended for ELK) and the bullet drops below the minimum</p><p>recommended velocity of 1800 ft/sec for proper performance at 625 yards.</p><p></p><p>As to killing a grizzly at 620 yards , I would NEVER take a shot like that on dangerous Game</p><p>because as we all know things don't always go the way we want them to even with perfect</p><p>shot placement. And tracking a wounded grizzly is never a good deal.</p><p></p><p>I competed in NRA High Power matches at the state level and even won several 1000 yard </p><p>matches using a 7mm Rem Mag but paper is different than game. And after almost 50 years</p><p>of hunting I have lost only 2 big game animals and both were bow shot in terrain that I </p><p>shouldn't have taken any shot because recovery was impossible.</p><p></p><p>Every rifle has its limits no matter how good the shooter is so I never recomend anything</p><p>that is risky for the animals sake and beyond the reasonable limits of the weapon and </p><p>the bullet.</p><p></p><p>If I wanted to hunt beyond 1000 yards I would use something in the order of a 338, but</p><p>to shoot 1000 yrds almost any 7mm would be good.</p><p></p><p>Not trying to start an argument Just trying to explain my recommendations.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 287939, member: 2736"] Grit. yes I am very conservative and I never said that an Elk could not be killed beyond 550 yards. only that the recommended range for the 7mm REM Mag was 550 yrds. This is based on a lot of factors and is not just my opinion. Using the 180gr bullet you can expect around 2700 ft/sec in a standard length barrel. This equates to an energy level at 550 yrds of 1500 ft/lbs (Minimum recommended for ELK) and the bullet drops below the minimum recommended velocity of 1800 ft/sec for proper performance at 625 yards. As to killing a grizzly at 620 yards , I would NEVER take a shot like that on dangerous Game because as we all know things don't always go the way we want them to even with perfect shot placement. And tracking a wounded grizzly is never a good deal. I competed in NRA High Power matches at the state level and even won several 1000 yard matches using a 7mm Rem Mag but paper is different than game. And after almost 50 years of hunting I have lost only 2 big game animals and both were bow shot in terrain that I shouldn't have taken any shot because recovery was impossible. Every rifle has its limits no matter how good the shooter is so I never recomend anything that is risky for the animals sake and beyond the reasonable limits of the weapon and the bullet. If I wanted to hunt beyond 1000 yards I would use something in the order of a 338, but to shoot 1000 yrds almost any 7mm would be good. Not trying to start an argument Just trying to explain my recommendations. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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