Well the past couple of trips up, the grandson has been getting in a little bit of shooting practice. I loaded up some 125gr reduced loads for my Ruger Compact 308, and pulled out an old M1 Carbine that I had stuck away that my pop sporterized back in the early 60's. So the first time out, we shot the .308 first, and after three shots the boy decided that was enough, and we tried the carbine. He liked it much better and ran off around 10 rounds before calling it quits. I took them both up again this weekend and we set up down in the pasture at our range. From the target we drove up 50 yds and set him up in the back of the truck. We do all of the checks, maing sure he is holding things properly and positioned comfortable. Then the fireing sequence go as follows, are you on target, " I got it right where I want it PAwpa". Ok I am taking it off safety, no wait till I say, "OK pawpa, hurry I want to shoot". Ok when your "BOOM". First rattle out of the box he was shooting the little M1 and puts one damn near in the bull of the orange sticker. THen we move up to the 308. He started off a little high, but this was due to the anticipated recoil. After that though he worked it right down to the bull. He isn't quite as confident as it kicks more, but with the way he was shooting, I am hopefule that some pot bellied corn crunchiing shoat will hit the dirt in the next couple of weekends. It isn't stretching the limits of the rifle, but for a 5 year old, 50 yards is a long ways. I am sure it won't be long till I will be skinning out his critters, and hopefully he will grow to enjoy the shooting, and the outdoors as much as I have through the years.