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<blockquote data-quote="D.Camilleri" data-source="post: 512060" data-attributes="member: 2567"><p>For what it is worth, I have never killed a grizzly, not that I haven't wanted too when coming across a big griz with an attitude. It seems the griz in Wyoming have no fear of man at all. I have shot several very large black bears. First one was in northern Ca. in an area known for very big black bears. I saw a bear across a canyon and took an estimated 600 yard shot with my 7mm mag shooting 160 gr partitions @ 3150. I hit the bear square in the shoulder, he bit at his shoulder and started to roll. I watched him roll close to 200 yards down a steep hill side. It took me around a hour and a half to reach the last point that I saw the bear. No blood. I looked for that bear for two days and never found a trace. Lost bear.</p><p></p><p>The next bear in the same area, was a very large boar, my dad was with me and we saw the bear walking towards us in a creek bottom. I gave dad first shot. Dad flattened the bear at about 100 yards with a 210 grain partition from his 338 win mag. Then while dad was gathering his casing, I saw the bear splash into the creek and come out like he wasn't even touched. I took a running shot with my 7mm and broke his hip. I saw him go down and as I ran up to see his condition, he was gone. I got to where I last saw him and he was 150 yards up the hill heading for thick brush. I put a 160 grain partition behind the shoulder and into the boiler room. He was down, but didn't expire for close to five minutes. After skinning the bear out, we learned some things. First, a head on shot at a big bear isn't a good shot. Dad hit the bear exactly where he aimed and broke his shoulder, the problem is the bears anatomy, the bullet exited the back side of the shoulder and followed the space between the hide and the chest cavity all the way back to the ham. Bullet didn't enter the boiler room. My first shot broke the bears hip. This bear was moving out with a broken shoulder and a broken hip like he wasn't hurt. My final shot did the job, but not with authority. The shot was only 100-150 yards, I recovered the nosler partition in the chest cavity. The bullet never touched the off side of the rib cage. This was a big bear, over 500 lbs, and just missed making B&C with over a 20 inch scull. </p><p></p><p>My point with all of this is that bears are very tough, and grizzlies have even tougher attitudes. After my encounters and those of several friends who also lost big bears in the same area, I came to the conclusion that bigger guns with heavier bullets were needed for these bigger animals. This was when I stepped up to a 338 and have never looked back. A 300 rum will work well on a griz, but I would be shooting a 200 grain bullet with controlled expansion for deep penetration and preferably complete pass through.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D.Camilleri, post: 512060, member: 2567"] For what it is worth, I have never killed a grizzly, not that I haven't wanted too when coming across a big griz with an attitude. It seems the griz in Wyoming have no fear of man at all. I have shot several very large black bears. First one was in northern Ca. in an area known for very big black bears. I saw a bear across a canyon and took an estimated 600 yard shot with my 7mm mag shooting 160 gr partitions @ 3150. I hit the bear square in the shoulder, he bit at his shoulder and started to roll. I watched him roll close to 200 yards down a steep hill side. It took me around a hour and a half to reach the last point that I saw the bear. No blood. I looked for that bear for two days and never found a trace. Lost bear. The next bear in the same area, was a very large boar, my dad was with me and we saw the bear walking towards us in a creek bottom. I gave dad first shot. Dad flattened the bear at about 100 yards with a 210 grain partition from his 338 win mag. Then while dad was gathering his casing, I saw the bear splash into the creek and come out like he wasn't even touched. I took a running shot with my 7mm and broke his hip. I saw him go down and as I ran up to see his condition, he was gone. I got to where I last saw him and he was 150 yards up the hill heading for thick brush. I put a 160 grain partition behind the shoulder and into the boiler room. He was down, but didn't expire for close to five minutes. After skinning the bear out, we learned some things. First, a head on shot at a big bear isn't a good shot. Dad hit the bear exactly where he aimed and broke his shoulder, the problem is the bears anatomy, the bullet exited the back side of the shoulder and followed the space between the hide and the chest cavity all the way back to the ham. Bullet didn't enter the boiler room. My first shot broke the bears hip. This bear was moving out with a broken shoulder and a broken hip like he wasn't hurt. My final shot did the job, but not with authority. The shot was only 100-150 yards, I recovered the nosler partition in the chest cavity. The bullet never touched the off side of the rib cage. This was a big bear, over 500 lbs, and just missed making B&C with over a 20 inch scull. My point with all of this is that bears are very tough, and grizzlies have even tougher attitudes. After my encounters and those of several friends who also lost big bears in the same area, I came to the conclusion that bigger guns with heavier bullets were needed for these bigger animals. This was when I stepped up to a 338 and have never looked back. A 300 rum will work well on a griz, but I would be shooting a 200 grain bullet with controlled expansion for deep penetration and preferably complete pass through. [/QUOTE]
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