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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 511422" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>I've used Berger 210 VLDs for about 4 years now. I've already had one blow apart with unacceptable penetration, and one pass through without any expansion. Both incidents were reported in these Forums, for the benefit of other members. A photo of the exit wound on the skinned Dall ram from last year was provided in my post. My somewhat limited experiences mimic yours. I've also seen them drop black bear and Dall sheep as quickly as flipping off a light switch. Problem is, it's like the flip of a coin - heads or tails? Do they expand AND provide sufficient penetration to reach the vitals on large bodied game? Do the explode on impact? Or do they pass through without any expansion? No way am I going to flip coins by using them in pursuit of grizzly or brown bear. </p><p></p><p>The lightning like kills that the Berger bullets often provide are very thrilling in the field, and exciting to watch on film. Those kills are the result of the violent uncontrolled expansion of a very thinly jacketed lead bullet inside the game animal. Consistent with that type of violent expansion, they will, on occasion, shrapnel completely before reaching the vitals if some bone and/or muscle must be passed before reaching the vitals. </p><p></p><p>It doesn't bother me in the least if the bears I shoot run 50-100 yds before expiring from a solid hit with a controlled expansion bullet. As long as they're dead when I approach to retrieve them out of the alders. The Berger VLD and Hornady Amax are amongst my last choice of bullets for use on either wounded or healthy grizzly/brown bear at close range - let alone in the alders. Not because I know with absolute certainty they'll fail to perform in that setting. Rather, there are so many other controlled expansion bullets available that will reduce the odds of bullet failure, compared to the VLD and Amax. Bullets that perform so reliably, consistently, and repeatedly as to be boring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 511422, member: 4191"] I've used Berger 210 VLDs for about 4 years now. I've already had one blow apart with unacceptable penetration, and one pass through without any expansion. Both incidents were reported in these Forums, for the benefit of other members. A photo of the exit wound on the skinned Dall ram from last year was provided in my post. My somewhat limited experiences mimic yours. I've also seen them drop black bear and Dall sheep as quickly as flipping off a light switch. Problem is, it's like the flip of a coin - heads or tails? Do they expand AND provide sufficient penetration to reach the vitals on large bodied game? Do the explode on impact? Or do they pass through without any expansion? No way am I going to flip coins by using them in pursuit of grizzly or brown bear. The lightning like kills that the Berger bullets often provide are very thrilling in the field, and exciting to watch on film. Those kills are the result of the violent uncontrolled expansion of a very thinly jacketed lead bullet inside the game animal. Consistent with that type of violent expansion, they will, on occasion, shrapnel completely before reaching the vitals if some bone and/or muscle must be passed before reaching the vitals. It doesn't bother me in the least if the bears I shoot run 50-100 yds before expiring from a solid hit with a controlled expansion bullet. As long as they're dead when I approach to retrieve them out of the alders. The Berger VLD and Hornady Amax are amongst my last choice of bullets for use on either wounded or healthy grizzly/brown bear at close range - let alone in the alders. Not because I know with absolute certainty they'll fail to perform in that setting. Rather, there are so many other controlled expansion bullets available that will reduce the odds of bullet failure, compared to the VLD and Amax. Bullets that perform so reliably, consistently, and repeatedly as to be boring. [/QUOTE]
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