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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 352069" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Britz,</p><p> </p><p>In spite of what you may have been taught, have you searched the scriptures diligiently regarding this issue? Many things are 'taught' and they should tested against the scriptures say to see if they are true. The scriptures are the standard, not what someone teaches as there are many false teachers and many teachers that make very human mistakes in there interpretation of the scriptures--often largely because they take their philosophy to the Bible to try to make the Bible fit their philosophy rather than the other way around. 308 mentioned this earlier. </p><p> </p><p>Speaking of 308, I very much doubt that he is in agreement with your above statement regarding works sending you to heaven. That is the one of the biggest false teachings regarding the scriptures there could be. Christ and the scriptures clearly teach that we are saved by grace, through faith that no human can boast that they attained salvation by themselves. We are created to do good works, but good works are clearly not what save us! This is one of Satan's biggest, easist to believe, lies. Remember, he is the Great Deceiver that deceived Eve and Adam in the Garden of Eden and humanity all throughout history since. Don't be deceived--search the scriptures diligently. This is just one of many sciptures talking about this all important issue:</p><p> </p><p>Ephesians 2:8-10 -- For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.</p><p> </p><p>Have a good day.</p><p> </p><p>Jon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 352069, member: 1742"] Britz, In spite of what you may have been taught, have you searched the scriptures diligiently regarding this issue? Many things are 'taught' and they should tested against the scriptures say to see if they are true. The scriptures are the standard, not what someone teaches as there are many false teachers and many teachers that make very human mistakes in there interpretation of the scriptures--often largely because they take their philosophy to the Bible to try to make the Bible fit their philosophy rather than the other way around. 308 mentioned this earlier. Speaking of 308, I very much doubt that he is in agreement with your above statement regarding works sending you to heaven. That is the one of the biggest false teachings regarding the scriptures there could be. Christ and the scriptures clearly teach that we are saved by grace, through faith that no human can boast that they attained salvation by themselves. We are created to do good works, but good works are clearly not what save us! This is one of Satan's biggest, easist to believe, lies. Remember, he is the Great Deceiver that deceived Eve and Adam in the Garden of Eden and humanity all throughout history since. Don't be deceived--search the scriptures diligently. This is just one of many sciptures talking about this all important issue: Ephesians 2:8-10 -- For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Have a good day. Jon [/QUOTE]
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