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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 350473" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Don't let the failures of many very human people derail your search for ultimate truth. That is a very common copout of many--been there myself. It's a worthless point.</p><p> </p><p>We are all hypocrites and fail and sin miserably everyday and that is exactly why we need the forgiveness that only Christ can give paid for by his death on the cross. His life for our life, for life 'is in the blood' (Lev. 17:11--"For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life." This was the basis and reason for the Jewish sacrificial system. When we sin, it is so serious to God that the life blood of a creature must be shed to atone for our sins. God is equal parts love and justice. (We often want to talk about the love and little about the justice.) This system was ended with the ultimate blood sacrifice to take away the sins of the world in entirety--Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God. We deserve nothing but condemnation and death for our sins, yet He chose to save ANYONE if only we truly ask His forgiveness and repent of our sins, accept Him as Lord and Savior of our lives and truly seek and follow Christ (with many mistakes along the way, no doubt, thank God for the forgiveness that I need every day) for the remainder of our earthly lives.</p><p> </p><p>God did not create this horrific world we live in now to be the way it is. It was initially created perfect and will be restored in the future. </p><p> </p><p>I can get into the whole creation/evolution debate, but suffice to say that a tremendous amount of evidence (I say much better evidence than that twisted to support evolution and anti-true God philosophies.) to support exactly what the Bible says regarding a literal six day creation, Noah's flood (hmmm...where did all those fossils come from all over the world and hmm... what specific set of requirements do you have to have for fossils to be created in the first place?), etc. exists and is suppressed in a tremendous fashion by the 'scholars of this age'--look that phrase up in your Bible. If you saw Ben Stein's movie (Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed) a couple of years ago, you'll start to just get a feel for the very tip of the iceberg...</p><p> </p><p>God created Adam and Eve with an ability to make a choice to chose to obey God and love Him or not. They had a perfect sinless life and relationship with their Creator. There was only one thing they were told not to do, however, and they did it. With one sin, Adam and Eve caused the curse on the perfect world God made and now the ravages of sin affect EVERYTHING on this earth from that time on and it's not getting any better--the justice part of God. Some of God's power/blessing was lifted from this earth at that time and we all bear the result of that original sin. Don't mess with Him. </p><p> </p><p>BUT, God, in his infinite grace and mercy, (the love part of God) provided a way out of this mess we got ourselves into through the holy and perfect sacrifice of His Son, Jesus. We, we all, nailed Him to that cross. He was put there for and because of our sins, that through his sacrifice (life for life) we could be restored to a right relationship with God that allow us to spend an eternity with Him. A wonderful gift...only for the asking. </p><p> </p><p>Perfect created world...all of God's blessing. Current cursed/sinful world...some of God's blessing...enough to find Him and a right relationship with Him (Rom 1:20). A 'world' completely void of God's blessing? Hell.</p><p> </p><p>This world will be restored to that perfect, sinless world it once was, as mentioned in Isaiah, and was meant to be and those that choose to follow Christ and not reject his sacrifice for us will live in that perfect world with no pain, no sorrow.</p><p> </p><p>We like to think we have all kinds of choices in life. In reality we have two--in every action, behavior, thought, etc. We either choose to follow and obey the Creator of the Universe or we choose to sin against Him and reject Him. Both provide clear pathways. </p><p> </p><p>The question is, will you choose Him?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 350473, member: 1742"] Don't let the failures of many very human people derail your search for ultimate truth. That is a very common copout of many--been there myself. It's a worthless point. We are all hypocrites and fail and sin miserably everyday and that is exactly why we need the forgiveness that only Christ can give paid for by his death on the cross. His life for our life, for life 'is in the blood' (Lev. 17:11--"For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life." This was the basis and reason for the Jewish sacrificial system. When we sin, it is so serious to God that the life blood of a creature must be shed to atone for our sins. God is equal parts love and justice. (We often want to talk about the love and little about the justice.) This system was ended with the ultimate blood sacrifice to take away the sins of the world in entirety--Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God. We deserve nothing but condemnation and death for our sins, yet He chose to save ANYONE if only we truly ask His forgiveness and repent of our sins, accept Him as Lord and Savior of our lives and truly seek and follow Christ (with many mistakes along the way, no doubt, thank God for the forgiveness that I need every day) for the remainder of our earthly lives. God did not create this horrific world we live in now to be the way it is. It was initially created perfect and will be restored in the future. I can get into the whole creation/evolution debate, but suffice to say that a tremendous amount of evidence (I say much better evidence than that twisted to support evolution and anti-true God philosophies.) to support exactly what the Bible says regarding a literal six day creation, Noah's flood (hmmm...where did all those fossils come from all over the world and hmm... what specific set of requirements do you have to have for fossils to be created in the first place?), etc. exists and is suppressed in a tremendous fashion by the 'scholars of this age'--look that phrase up in your Bible. If you saw Ben Stein's movie (Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed) a couple of years ago, you'll start to just get a feel for the very tip of the iceberg... God created Adam and Eve with an ability to make a choice to chose to obey God and love Him or not. They had a perfect sinless life and relationship with their Creator. There was only one thing they were told not to do, however, and they did it. With one sin, Adam and Eve caused the curse on the perfect world God made and now the ravages of sin affect EVERYTHING on this earth from that time on and it's not getting any better--the justice part of God. Some of God's power/blessing was lifted from this earth at that time and we all bear the result of that original sin. Don't mess with Him. BUT, God, in his infinite grace and mercy, (the love part of God) provided a way out of this mess we got ourselves into through the holy and perfect sacrifice of His Son, Jesus. We, we all, nailed Him to that cross. He was put there for and because of our sins, that through his sacrifice (life for life) we could be restored to a right relationship with God that allow us to spend an eternity with Him. A wonderful gift...only for the asking. Perfect created world...all of God's blessing. Current cursed/sinful world...some of God's blessing...enough to find Him and a right relationship with Him (Rom 1:20). A 'world' completely void of God's blessing? Hell. This world will be restored to that perfect, sinless world it once was, as mentioned in Isaiah, and was meant to be and those that choose to follow Christ and not reject his sacrifice for us will live in that perfect world with no pain, no sorrow. We like to think we have all kinds of choices in life. In reality we have two--in every action, behavior, thought, etc. We either choose to follow and obey the Creator of the Universe or we choose to sin against Him and reject Him. Both provide clear pathways. The question is, will you choose Him? [/QUOTE]
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