Lightweight Hunter that can reach out at the range too.

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by hawk45, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. hawk45

    hawk45 Well-Known Member

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    The plan - Gun I can sling up and walk with anywhere in the US but also enjoy on the range. I have so many specific purpose guns and they are mostly heavy, that I'd like a nice all-arounder I can grab for and know will be able to do anything.
    Budget - Limited to about $700 max on the rifle. Have about $500 for optic.
    Lightweight - Around 9lbs w/optic. 10lbs may be pushing it.
    Universal - Hunt pretty much anything in North America, still have fun on the range. Max range for hunting = 600yds, for target 1200+
    Low Recoil - I understand physics of a light gun and big caliber, but if need be, I'll add a brake to tame.
    Magazine - prefer to have a magazine, but not end-all-be-all.
    Action - Maybe long action to have more choices down the line for a rebarrel
    Caliber - I reload so pretty much anything will work, but I prefer to stay away from ultra mags and wildcats that components are hard to find. Availability of components is critical. Calibers that come to mind are 30-06, 280AI, 300WM/WSM

    Base rifles I've been tossing around : Savage and Tikka
    Savage - I have a few Savages and all been good guns. I like that I can spin off a barrel and put a new one on at the house. Decent part selection. Don't care for the factory synthetic stocks, though they don't seem to harm accuracy.

    Tikka - I have one in .223 and love it. Light weight, compact, super smooth bolt and nice trigger. Twists are a little slow for heavier projectiles which is a bummer and their only flaw. Not sure how their recoil lug stands up on magnums (if went this route). Even with the sporter barrel profile these seem to shoot 3-5 shot groups well from reports.. a big plus for when at the range (not hunting).

    Thanks ahead of time for your input.
     
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  2. 65 GRENDEL

    65 GRENDEL Well-Known Member

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    I have a Savage 111 fcns in .308 w/accutrigger topped with a Nikon Monarch 4-16-50 bdc that can shoot 500+ yards and is under your weight threshold but going out to 1200 yards with a budget of $700.00 is going to be hard to do in my opinion. At least youre handloading so that will help. Good luck.
     

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    Yeah I know.. in a perfect world right. But really looking for if anyone has a similar setup and can share their experiences. I have tons of heavy bench/prone guns for ELR, but not many lightweight rifles other than my .22's and .223's.
     
  5. MudRunner2005

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    my "lite weight" all around is rem. classic 6.5x55, leupold 6.5x20x40 with turrets.
    use it for hunting, silhouette, and to 700 yd. "plinking" shoots .5moa with 142 SMK and rl-22. mild recoil, easy to load for, lite weight, AND under $1000.
     
  7. hawk45

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    Ha! I just happened to pick up 200 Lapua 6.5x284 about 30 mins ago. I think I'm either going to stick with this as my cartridge to build around, or I'm going to neck up to a straight .284.. not sure.

    Do the Savage 6.5x284s come in long action or short action? If it comes in a long action I'd jump on one and build up as I go, like all my others.
     
  8. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    .280 Ackely Improved will kill deer out to 1,000, and target shoot out to 1,200...

    It has almost identical ballistics to a 7mm RemMag, with less powder, longer case life, less recoil, long barrel life, etc...

    But you will need a long action with a standard bolt face.
     
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    Broz Well-Known Member

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    I am doing load work up and sight in on a 6.5x284 Cooper 52 today. 24" pencil barrel, nice and light even with a 2lb. 22X NXS. No brake. I hate it! I will gladly carry a few more pounds. This little LW sucker jumps around like a poodle with it's azz on fire.

    Jeff
     
  10. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly why I like a little bit heavier barrel on my rifles. At minimum a Accumark contour.

    I was surprised at how smooth my .338 WinMag shoots. For a very lightweight gun, it doesn't jump around very much. It was more of a pushing recoil (which I prefer of the 2), than a snappy recoil.

    I wonder how the SF sporter barrle will be on that LW rifle, once I get it, and chamber it to .257 Wby... Got any experience Jeff? I know even in my Accumark the .257 Wby is a snappy little caliber, but very managable.
     
  11. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    I am with you there. At least if we are talking any long range at all.

    Jeff
     
  12. MudRunner2005

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    Yep, I like my rifles to be dual purpose. Lightweight enough to toted around, but a stiff enough contour to accurately shoot LR with.

    I think I might give Krieger a call to see if the can make me a 26" 5R Accumark barrel blank (black flutes and all) for my 700, in a .284 1:9, so I can use it for my .280 AI build....That would be the perfect setup for that caliber, IMO.
     
  13. Broz

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    Go with a 8 1/2" twist. Those 195 Bergers will be here one day.lightbulb

    Jeff
     
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    You really think 195's in a .280AI would be fine? I was thinking 180's would be tons of pressure as it is...But I trust your judgment. That might be a pretty nasty concoction... Loaded with some 7828 SSC. What you think?