Leupold TMR Reticle for Varmints

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by Duvel, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. Duvel

    Duvel Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys. I'm researching scope options for my new rig. I really like Leupold's TMR reticle because of the open center on it. The scope that really interests me is the "Mark 4 ER/T 6.5-20x50mm M5 Front Focal w/ TMR Reticle." I'm wanting to try out a first focal plane scope. My question is, How thick is the reticle going to be at 20X magnification? I'm hoping that the open center of the TMR reticle will keep from covering little critters up completely. Does Leupold have a detailed drawing of the TMR reticle specifying the width of the reticle lines in mils? Thanks for the help guys.

    Cody
     
  2. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    You know I have that same scope for sale in optics section right now. Very thin lines, and leupold quality.
     

  3. REDHEAD

    REDHEAD Well-Known Member

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    The opening in center isn't much of a significant , can hardly see anything through it . It s more for target? Its a very small window. I like mine.
     
  4. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    Mine are both less magnification I like them.
     
  5. gebhardt02

    gebhardt02 Well-Known Member

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    I have two 6.5-20X50 SFP scopes with TMR, it is a great reticle. I'm not sure about line thickness however in the FFP models but doubt it'll cover much of the target.

    Geb
     
  6. cummins cowboy

    cummins cowboy Well-Known Member

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    dude, that is a $1700 scope!!!! and its still a leupold. that is more than I paid for my nightforce with MOAR reticle. yeah its not a mil based reticle and yeah its not FFP, but its still a nightforce and not a leupold.
     
  7. Greyfox

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    I use a lower power MK 4 with a TMR on my coyote rifle and really like it. Familiarity with the Mildot system is useful for running leads, and quick ranging typical with this hunting. Mine is not a FFP, but this has not been a hindrance to my shooting style.
     
  8. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    I have both and I cannot tell the difference between the FFP and SFP in regard to line thickness.
     
  9. barnesuser28

    barnesuser28 Well-Known Member

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    I can try to get you a pic of a tmr reticle on a standard stop sign at 995 yards on 20x, its not a ffp scope but they should be the same size at 20x dont you think?
     
  10. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    If that's max power on your optic then yes, at that setting you have a true mil scale.
     
  11. barnesuser28

    barnesuser28 Well-Known Member

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    yes my scope is a 6.5x20, i will get a pic up later today.
     
  12. Duvel

    Duvel Well-Known Member

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    Hey Guys,
    I've been away from the computer a few days, I got a nasty case of the flu! Whew! Thanks for all of the replies! Barnesuser28, a picture would be much appreciated. Cowboy, yes I know it's pricey and I have considered Nightforce(I have 4 already), but I'm a mil/mil kind of guy, and I don't care for mil-dot reticles. And yes I firmly believe the Nightforce is a better scope, but they need to work on their mil reticle selection. I like the MOAR reticle, but I have no use for a scope with mil adjustments and a MOA reticle, or vice versa. It's easier to count by 10's than 4's, at least for me it is. But I'm just a novice at this long range stuff.
     
  13. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    There is no basis for the notions that NXS scopes are 'better' than Mk4 scopes.
    I have both and consider Mk4 superior, given that Mk4s match or better NXS in every regard(depending on reticle preference), while a pound lighter, threaded for Alumina flip-ups, and adjusting in true MOA instead of 'close enough'.
     
  14. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    Here Leupold's manual on using the 'Tactical Reticle System'. It includes full specs for the TMR reticle.

    http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Tactical-Milling-Reticle-Man.pdf?9d7bd4

    FYI, I have MK4 scopes with TMR reticles on both my longrange rigs. Love the reticle, especially the open center. Like you, I've had other reticles cover-up a groundhog at 990 yards. With the open center, you can still see the 'hog AND still place an accurate shot.

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-260-mcr-59628/

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-300rum-mcr-70809/

    Also, like you, I just ordered the mil/mil MK4 and will be putting it on my 260 as that rifle has become my tactical competition rifle.