Leupold question

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by Firearrow, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Firearrow

    Firearrow Well-Known Member

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    I have a VX3 4.5x14x50LR with the Boone and Crocket reticle and I called Leupold's Custom Shop today to see if I could switch out the turets for the CDS one's. The guy said send us the money, the scope, and we will take care of it. I would love to sell this scope and buy a NF, but I am spending the money first on truing up my rile, and switching out a few things.

    So the question goes, I was woundering if anyone out there has done this, or already has the CDS turets on their scope. If so, how do you like it? Either way.

    Second question, which reticle would you go with. I was looking at having it swapped out, for long range hunting/field shooting, and would like to use either the mil-dot, or the regular duplex.

    Thanks,

    Garett
     
  2. Buano

    Buano Well-Known Member

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    I have 2 Leupolds I'm having the CDS turrets installed on to replace the "hunter" turrets. I've heard nothing bad, other than that the click value may be slightly off on some Leupold turrets.

    As for reticles, I am leaving the Boone & Crocket on the one scope that now has it. If there isn't time to twist turrets, the Boone & Crocket allows a fast shot that should be close enough for big game hunting out past 400 yards. If you have time to twist turrets the lower lines on the Boone & Crocket can be ignored. If these lines are distracting to you & you don't believe you are "trainable", then go ahead & switch back to a more basic reticle. It's your money.
     

  3. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    I just posted to similar below in ''M1 TURRETS" check it out,relates to what you are doing, I have a few cds,with different reticules, like em
     
  4. dig

    dig Well-Known Member

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    The leupold Tactical Milling Retical is fantastic, a little easier and more precise at longer ranges as oppes to traditional mil dot, check it out. The CDS dials work, I just wish they would make them in mil adjustments, a no brainer for different loads and using a balistics program.
     
  5. Firearrow

    Firearrow Well-Known Member

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    I have not seen one from Leupold, but I could be wrong, does anyone make a mil-dot style reticle, but in MOA.
     
  6. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    Leupold makes the TMR(mil)and mildot(mil) they make m5 and I thinkm3 turrets(mil) but your scope has to start as a mil
     
  7. Firearrow

    Firearrow Well-Known Member

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    That is just great. I think I know just enough to mess up a shot about MOA, now I have to learn MIL. There goes the world :D. Is there any books out there that give a redneck version on how to properly use Mil-Dot for long range shooting. I understand the range estimation use, I would just like to understnad how to use Mil for hold over, and compensating for the wind.
     
  8. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    There is a good article @ snipers hide-using a mil bases scope. If you have a ffp or your scope set at power set for system. Then you hold what you see in reticule for moa or mil. If you search here it has been covered.Read using modern reticules, in LRH ARTICLES
     
  9. Firearrow

    Firearrow Well-Known Member

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    Will do.
     
  10. Jon A

    Jon A Well-Known Member

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    It's really easy. Just change the options in your ballistics software from MOA to Mils. Actually with MOA knobs you need to print both so you can dial or use the reticle. Here's a cut and paste from something I wrote earlier today to try and explain using the reticle for wind:

    With a good reticle one can hold within .1 Mil (1/3 MOA) quite easily. You may miss because you misjudged the wind, but holding the correction accurately is not a problem.

    Whether you're using a quick reference drop chart with 10 MPH wind holds printed out like this:

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    Or a PDA spitting out corrections, you can and should get precise windage corrections the same as you get precise elevation corrections.

    For example with the above: You range the target or critter at, any number, it doesn't matter--let's say 732 yds. Your 10 MPH wind correction is .8 Mils. If you estimate the wind value is 5 MPH you hold into it .4 Mils. If you it's 9 MPH you hold into it .7 Mils. If you estimate it's 15 MPH you hold into it 1.2 Mils, etc. If you're using a PDA/Phone it'll spit out whatever correction you need as well, it just takes a bit more time.

    Here's an article that may be helpful (just skip over the ranging part):

    Shooting Voodoo :: Maximizing the mil-based reticle
     
  11. sscoyote

    sscoyote Well-Known Member

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    There is certainly nothing wrong with your current reticle setup for fast accurate shots at game in the field--once you maximize the reticle's potential. If i were setting that up for intermediate range shooting in a hunting scenario i'd have dope for the reticle in a Butler Creek scope cap cover and Leupold's low profile turret (elevation only) with turret dope on the side of the rifle like Jon shows above. The plex post tips in that optic measure (subtend) 2.6 MOA @ 14x, and can be subdivided the same way Jon detailed above for windage apps. using turret for elevation.
     
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  12. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    I can't speak to your question about CDS turrets, but I can talk about your reticle choices....

    Leupold's TMR reticle is fabulous. I have it on two of my long-range rigs. The cross hairs don't actually touch in the center. This means the reticle will never cover-up a small target at longrange. Also, the hash marks are in .5mil

    There are currently two companies that make MOA reticles and that is Nightforce and Vortex. Sightron is about to release them.
     
  13. sp6x6

    sp6x6 Well-Known Member

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    As sscoyote outlined, but you have a B&C RETICULE. I refered you to other post. I have low prfile cds turret and b&C ALSO. I dial of the last hash, for 600+ shots w/ dope on rifle, quick shoot to 550. I use 200 zero, you can use whatever zero you want.The drops on next cross hairs are moa 2.19,4.8,6.26,post 7.82 large delta,refer to manual for small delta. I have several different leupolds.