Length of Pull

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by Boondocker, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. Boondocker

    Boondocker Member

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    How do you decide on the proper length of pull? I can't seem to find much information on this subject, not even on the custom rifle stock mfg websites. It seems to me that this is a very important subject when buying a rifle stock and it often gets overlooked.
     
  2. MTBULLET

    MTBULLET Well-Known Member

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    call the stock maker after u decide which one u want. length of pull is subjective, we all have a different requirement. it's a matter of what works for you and your needs in regard to "fit" your frame. I have a different LOP on different rifles, tho minor, because of the optics mounted and recoil involved maybe a 1/4" at most, but that's why "custom" stocks are called custom.
     

  3. FEENIX

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    Try this ...

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  4. Boondocker

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    Thanks guys for the response. Don't want you to think I'm a green-horn with rifles and shooting because I'm not. It's just that the measurement between the bicep and the dip joint makes no sense to me. Somewhere between those two measurements you have to grip the stock and there can be a huge difference in stocks from the grip to the trigger shoe. I need a 15-1/2" LOP when using that method, but the tip of my finger is at least 1/2" in front of the trigger on a Mcmillan Classic Sporter or HS Stock when I hold the grip. Also, when ordering stocks in the past, the manufacturer's acted as if 1/4" makes a huge difference and I should not go any longer than about 14inches.
    It seems to me like the stock mfg's should somehow list both of those measurements about there stocks since we don't always have the luxury of holding every different model when ordering. That's my take on it for whatever it's worth.
     
  5. MTBULLET

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    your exactly right, the stock makers know how to do it the right way. the elbow to finger measurement is not accurate and has been around for years.
     
  6. FEENIX

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  7. One_Duck_Limit

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    I had the same question last year before I ordered a stock. When I spoke to the stock manufacturer they said the standard 13 1/2" pull you find on most factory rifles fits the average man at 5' 10" tall. I mentioned I was 6' 2" and they immediately recommended adding 1/4" for a 13 3/4" pull. I removed the recoil pad from my factory stock and added a 1/4" spacer to see how it felt. I couldn't believe the difference 1/4" made. I ordered my new stock with 13 3/4" pull and haven't looked back.
     
  8. WyoElk2Hunt

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    Remember that shooting in a t shirt and shooting with a heavy coat will affect the length of pull you desire.
     
  9. trebark

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    You must have some short arms. I'm 6' 2" and my arms are not exceptionally long and my McMillan A3 has a LOP of 14.75" and it fits great.
     
  10. MTBULLET

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    EUREKA ! we have discovered something ! there IS NO "average" lengh of pull, that's a myth fostered by arms mfg.'s to "fit" the masses. Everyone needs to be measured, or know how to measure, for correct fitting of a stock.
     
  11. BillR

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    There are also differences in stock length needed when it comes to shooting position and LOP. The old use of distance between the inside of the elbow and the joint in the trigger finger is about as nonsensical as it gets. Its also the reason I use a H-S Precision stock with the adjustable comb and butt. So much easier to set up for either position. If you get your gun to fit you for offhand shooting and then try to shoot it prone you have to do all kinds of twisting to get it in the right position without them. Problem is, most guns that can be adjusted to fit you in any position are also heavy which does not lend itself well to what is thought to be a hunting gun. Really it all depends on your hunting style.
     
  12. Boondocker

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    Guy's I know this length of pull thing has been discussed over and over but I'm still confused. Today I checked all of my stocks for proper fit and all of them are to short for my hands from the grip to the trigger. When I grip any of the stocks my trigger finger comes up about 3/8" in front of the trigger shoe. It wouldn't matter if the LOP was 20" they still wouldn't fit properly. Does anyone know of a hunting type stock that would better fit a large hand? Not really wanting to go to a tactical style stock even though I believe they may fit my hand better.
     
  13. FEENIX

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    Did you read Shawn Carlock's article, esp. on web to trigger and grip section? He covered the whole LR fitting aspect not just the LOP.


    Fitting The Long Range Rifle