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Lee Collet Dies vs Redding S bushing dies
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<blockquote data-quote="bbowles" data-source="post: 996639" data-attributes="member: 73388"><p>I have followed this thread closely cause I have a 6.5 CM std reamer being custom built and have been ordering reloading equipment for it. Have always used std FL dies but now I want to learn the finer points in LR shooting and reloading for concentricity. I have a Redding S Type FL die and competition seating die set. I planned on using this die without expander ball. After reading this thread and several others I am wondering if I should be using an expander mandrel, Lee Collet die, etc.?</p><p></p><p>My goal is to make sure functions in rifle (hence the FL sizing) everytime, runout is .001 or less on neck and bullet, and to have as few of steps as possible. I enjoy reloading but you can spend a TON of time if did everything there is to do. Due to time, I have decided I don't want to anneal or turn necks ( I would rather just throw away worn out cases and get more). UNLESS, that is required to get this type of runout.</p><p></p><p>My typical process is: </p><p>tumble hour or so, inspect cases</p><p>brush necks to clean</p><p>Sinclair Concentricity gage</p><p>FL size/decap on Redding Big Boss 2</p><p>tumble corn cob 1 hr</p><p>debur flash holes (only once on new cases)</p><p>uniform primer pockets</p><p>trim cases (just ordered Giraud, was using Sinclair Ultimate)</p><p>chamfer/debur/ brush case necks</p><p>sort cases by weight (new batch once only)</p><p>Sinclair Case Neck Sorter to check neck thickness variation (new batch once only)</p><p>Concentricity gage again to see how runout is after sizing</p><p>primer seating (RCBS handheld)</p><p>Powder charging (RCBS Chargemaster, love it!)</p><p>Sort bullets by ogive length</p><p>seat bullets (about .002 tension)</p><p>concentricity gage for bullet runout</p><p></p><p>I am not afraid of doing the work (fun for me to a point). I have not wanted to add steps like annealing or turning necks but don't know what steps should be done and what should be ignored as waste of time. My real question is best way to do sizing and setting neck tension which provides the least runout. I know there are a million ways to do all of this but am sure there is a better way than I have been doing. My runout using method above for my .223 has been about .002 avg using std FL dies. After reading many threads I have ran across many that think bushing dies are a waste and/or should be using Lee collet dies or using expander mandrel, etc. Very confusing. Thanks for the help and sorry for the length!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbowles, post: 996639, member: 73388"] I have followed this thread closely cause I have a 6.5 CM std reamer being custom built and have been ordering reloading equipment for it. Have always used std FL dies but now I want to learn the finer points in LR shooting and reloading for concentricity. I have a Redding S Type FL die and competition seating die set. I planned on using this die without expander ball. After reading this thread and several others I am wondering if I should be using an expander mandrel, Lee Collet die, etc.? My goal is to make sure functions in rifle (hence the FL sizing) everytime, runout is .001 or less on neck and bullet, and to have as few of steps as possible. I enjoy reloading but you can spend a TON of time if did everything there is to do. Due to time, I have decided I don't want to anneal or turn necks ( I would rather just throw away worn out cases and get more). UNLESS, that is required to get this type of runout. My typical process is: tumble hour or so, inspect cases brush necks to clean Sinclair Concentricity gage FL size/decap on Redding Big Boss 2 tumble corn cob 1 hr debur flash holes (only once on new cases) uniform primer pockets trim cases (just ordered Giraud, was using Sinclair Ultimate) chamfer/debur/ brush case necks sort cases by weight (new batch once only) Sinclair Case Neck Sorter to check neck thickness variation (new batch once only) Concentricity gage again to see how runout is after sizing primer seating (RCBS handheld) Powder charging (RCBS Chargemaster, love it!) Sort bullets by ogive length seat bullets (about .002 tension) concentricity gage for bullet runout I am not afraid of doing the work (fun for me to a point). I have not wanted to add steps like annealing or turning necks but don't know what steps should be done and what should be ignored as waste of time. My real question is best way to do sizing and setting neck tension which provides the least runout. I know there are a million ways to do all of this but am sure there is a better way than I have been doing. My runout using method above for my .223 has been about .002 avg using std FL dies. After reading many threads I have ran across many that think bushing dies are a waste and/or should be using Lee collet dies or using expander mandrel, etc. Very confusing. Thanks for the help and sorry for the length! [/QUOTE]
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