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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 70882" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>That's one of the great features of this die, no drag when entering or exiting the case. Son't need lube and can't stretch the necks. </p><p></p><p>As abinok said, the only time the die 'contacts' the case is when you have bottomed out the die and are applying pressure to squeeze the neck.</p><p></p><p>It does need a bit of force and why many have trouble. They just don't squeeze enough. I have a bullet near by and just try and push it into the neck. If not sized enough, the bullet can be hand pushed. If sized enough, the bullet will not go in.</p><p></p><p>I have found these dies to produce wonderfully sized cases with little to no runout. Seating is also a joy as you can feel how consistent the force is needed to seat the bullets.</p><p></p><p>You just have to get used to the fact that you are manually sizing/squeezing the case, not driving the neck into a small hole. Neck tension is in the 3 to 4 thou range which is ideal for hunting ammo and finding favor with more magnum/LR shooters for more consistent velocities.</p><p></p><p>A tip: If you are finding that no matter how much you press on the die the necks don't want to hold the bullet tightly (ie can hand seat the bullets), time to anneal the brass.</p><p></p><p>This is a sure fire way to know when your necks have worked hardened too much. The die will not be able to squeeze the necks down. Just anneal and all is well.</p><p></p><p>I have not found the same thing with reg. 'small' neck die sizing. I have had great loads go sour because necks had work hardened enough for inconsistent neck tension. With no way to monitor the condition, a lot of head scratching and cursing was caused.</p><p></p><p>Now I just size until it just doesn't want to work. Anneal, problem solved. I use 475 deg tempilac paint to monitor neck temp. This is the same temp as what Hornady uses in their kits. I let the paint melt and hold for a few extra seconds. I find that it gives that nice bluish colour that you see on military brass (no polishing). Great results.</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 70882, member: 8947"] That's one of the great features of this die, no drag when entering or exiting the case. Son't need lube and can't stretch the necks. As abinok said, the only time the die 'contacts' the case is when you have bottomed out the die and are applying pressure to squeeze the neck. It does need a bit of force and why many have trouble. They just don't squeeze enough. I have a bullet near by and just try and push it into the neck. If not sized enough, the bullet can be hand pushed. If sized enough, the bullet will not go in. I have found these dies to produce wonderfully sized cases with little to no runout. Seating is also a joy as you can feel how consistent the force is needed to seat the bullets. You just have to get used to the fact that you are manually sizing/squeezing the case, not driving the neck into a small hole. Neck tension is in the 3 to 4 thou range which is ideal for hunting ammo and finding favor with more magnum/LR shooters for more consistent velocities. A tip: If you are finding that no matter how much you press on the die the necks don't want to hold the bullet tightly (ie can hand seat the bullets), time to anneal the brass. This is a sure fire way to know when your necks have worked hardened too much. The die will not be able to squeeze the necks down. Just anneal and all is well. I have not found the same thing with reg. 'small' neck die sizing. I have had great loads go sour because necks had work hardened enough for inconsistent neck tension. With no way to monitor the condition, a lot of head scratching and cursing was caused. Now I just size until it just doesn't want to work. Anneal, problem solved. I use 475 deg tempilac paint to monitor neck temp. This is the same temp as what Hornady uses in their kits. I let the paint melt and hold for a few extra seconds. I find that it gives that nice bluish colour that you see on military brass (no polishing). Great results. Jerry [/QUOTE]
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