Don't laugh but I think alot of cost consciene long range hunters missing one of the most reliable scopes on the market for the money. Have one on a 300 rum sendaro and it has stood up to recoil, has out standing repeatebility and the glass for being chinese is the best I've ever seen for 230. bucks. The top turret is in 1/2 moa for about 68moa in just one turn. I have almost every other brand including leupold vxlll to monarh,buckmasters,burris, and sightron in s111 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif