Unfortunatlly I can't post the pics of the groups because all I have for Internet is an iPhone. The size of the groups is not so much my question. I decided to give this ladder test a try I've read alot about them but never tested it out. So I loaded up some 308s following all the steps involved, and headed for the hills. I was expecting go get a six o'clock to twelve o'clock group. Here's my question I got two groups that went from four o'clock to ten o'clock. Has anyone else had this issue or does anyone no why this would happen. I can email the pics if that would help. Thanks for the help.