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Ladder test fail. Stop telling newbs to use advanced techniques.
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<blockquote data-quote="FURMAN" data-source="post: 1501816" data-attributes="member: 26535"><p>Mikecr you pretty much nailed it but the OP is suggesting that seating depth testing after seeing a 1moa plus load is a waste which is completely false. Obviously I can not make others do seating depth testing nor do I really care but the reality is it matters so stop telling people it does not. Have you considered why Berger suggest their seating depth testing? As far as a ladder test being advanced that is wrong as well. A ladder is the easiest to read of any testing you can do. No one has ever said that every single powder/bullet/seating depth/rifle combination will give .25 moa. Entoptics I do agree with some of your post but could not disagree more with you telling someone seating depth testing was a waste of time. I even showed several seating depth test pics. Every single one of the 50ish loads I have developed have required seating depth testing and as stated in the other thread, just as Mikecr stated, seating depth can take a .25moa load to well over moa. I have found that certain cartridges are easier to tune such as the 204R, 20VT, 6.5 Creedmoor so the change in powder and or seating depth was not such a huge swing but I just have not seen that with larger overbore cartridges. </p><p></p><p><em>"but if your $2000 custom rig is printing 1.5 MOA, then it's probably not seating depth or powder charge that's your problem."</em></p><p></p><p>I showed you pics of this being completely false yet you came and started another topic to lead new guys astray. Do you want more pics of load development? I have $4k rifles that shoot over 2 moa at the incorrect seating depth and powder charge and .25 at the correct powder charge and seating depth. I can not for the life of me understand why you would spend that kind of money on a rifle and not do proper load develpment and if you are ok with 1moa then why would you not just but a cheap rifle? Most rifles are easily capable of 1moa these days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FURMAN, post: 1501816, member: 26535"] Mikecr you pretty much nailed it but the OP is suggesting that seating depth testing after seeing a 1moa plus load is a waste which is completely false. Obviously I can not make others do seating depth testing nor do I really care but the reality is it matters so stop telling people it does not. Have you considered why Berger suggest their seating depth testing? As far as a ladder test being advanced that is wrong as well. A ladder is the easiest to read of any testing you can do. No one has ever said that every single powder/bullet/seating depth/rifle combination will give .25 moa. Entoptics I do agree with some of your post but could not disagree more with you telling someone seating depth testing was a waste of time. I even showed several seating depth test pics. Every single one of the 50ish loads I have developed have required seating depth testing and as stated in the other thread, just as Mikecr stated, seating depth can take a .25moa load to well over moa. I have found that certain cartridges are easier to tune such as the 204R, 20VT, 6.5 Creedmoor so the change in powder and or seating depth was not such a huge swing but I just have not seen that with larger overbore cartridges. [I]"but if your $2000 custom rig is printing 1.5 MOA, then it's probably not seating depth or powder charge that's your problem."[/I] [I][/I] I showed you pics of this being completely false yet you came and started another topic to lead new guys astray. Do you want more pics of load development? I have $4k rifles that shoot over 2 moa at the incorrect seating depth and powder charge and .25 at the correct powder charge and seating depth. I can not for the life of me understand why you would spend that kind of money on a rifle and not do proper load develpment and if you are ok with 1moa then why would you not just but a cheap rifle? Most rifles are easily capable of 1moa these days. [/QUOTE]
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