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Kimber Montana in 270 WSM Needs Help!!
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<blockquote data-quote="scoutm" data-source="post: 299926" data-attributes="member: 18455"><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">First let me say that I'm not trying to start a debate on Kimber's inherent accuracy or inaccuracy. Mine unfortunately appears to be the latter. I know other guy's who own extremely accurate Kimbers and they are deservedly very happy with them. I, however, am not. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">No matter what I do, the rifle just doesn't want to shoot well. The best I've been able to achieve is about 1.5"- 1.75" groups at 100 yards. (Kimber support says that's within their accepable range)</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">To attempt to improve the groups here's what I've done so far:</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I've re-crowned the barrel</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I've ensured the barrel is completely floated</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I've verified the pillar bedded receiver is tightened to factory recommended torque level</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I've tried a variety of bullets from 110 grains to 150 grains</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I've tried both with factory and hand loaded ammo</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">On hand loaded ammo I've played with different powders and seating depths</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">In desperation, I have even tried using one of those harmonic donuts </span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Nothing has worked.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I have owned the gun for 3 years now and have decided it's time to do something with it but I'm having a terrible time trying to decide what that is. I really like the feel of the gun – action is smooth, feeds well and simply fits very comfortably. Here are the actions I've been thinking about:</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Give up and dump the gun</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Have the gun's action blue printed</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Re-barrel the gun</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Symbol'">· </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Blue print and re-barrel the gun</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">If I didn't like the way the gun feels the first option would be a no brainer but since it does and since I've already dumped a lot of time and money into the gun I would always wonder what if…</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">So any recommendations?</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scoutm, post: 299926, member: 18455"] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]First let me say that I'm not trying to start a debate on Kimber’s inherent accuracy or inaccuracy. Mine unfortunately appears to be the latter. I know other guy’s who own extremely accurate Kimbers and they are deservedly very happy with them. I, however, am not. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]No matter what I do, the rifle just doesn’t want to shoot well. The best I’ve been able to achieve is about 1.5"- 1.75” groups at 100 yards. (Kimber support says that's within their accepable range)[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]To attempt to improve the groups here's what I’ve done so far:[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’ve re-crowned the barrel[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’ve ensured the barrel is completely floated[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’ve verified the pillar bedded receiver is tightened to factory recommended torque level[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’ve tried a variety of bullets from 110 grains to 150 grains[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’ve tried both with factory and hand loaded ammo[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]On hand loaded ammo I’ve played with different powders and seating depths[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In desperation, I have even tried using one of those harmonic donuts [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Nothing has worked.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]I have owned the gun for 3 years now and have decided it’s time to do something with it but I’m having a terrible time trying to decide what that is. I really like the feel of the gun – action is smooth, feeds well and simply fits very comfortably. Here are the actions I’ve been thinking about:[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Give up and dump the gun[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Have the gun’s action blue printed[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Re-barrel the gun[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Symbol]· [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Blue print and re-barrel the gun[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2]If I didn’t like the way the gun feels the first option would be a no brainer but since it does and since I’ve already dumped a lot of time and money into the gun I would always wonder what if…[/SIZE] [SIZE=2]So any recommendations?[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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