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<blockquote data-quote="ol mike" data-source="post: 225009" data-attributes="member: 4683"><p>After reading all the threads i could find over at 24hr campfire [kimber cult] i believe ''you hear bad news -over good news''.</p><p>There are a few people who said themselves -they had a kimber liteweight rifle and ''thought'' it was not accurate ,then after listening to others who had mastered shooting them -they learned how to hold and handle them better.</p><p>One guy thought he had a dud and sent it back to kimber -they shot it and sent it back w/a proof target of its accuracy capabilities[three -three shot groups that averaged .7"].</p><p>He spoke w/kimber and someone there gave him a few tips he tried when he received the rifle back --he immediately shrank his groups to inside an inch.</p><p>The main problem is you can't let them free recoil without getting high flyers -or so i've read.</p><p></p><p> I have seen several pictures of rauchy bedding but no pictures of bad crowns -poor crowns happen -i just haven't seen pictures.They use a slave action to bed all the rifles -they do not bed each rifle with ''its'' action ,so that isn't really a true bedding job -but better than nothing at all.</p><p></p><p>Many people have kimbers that shoot 1/2" three shot groups -they get fired up when someone goes out buys a kimber in 300wsm shoots a 2" group w/ factory ammo -then crap talks kimber accuracy.</p><p></p><p> The 'learning' how to shoot a particular rifle reminds me of when i bought my pellet rifle -a gamo cfx royale -fixed barrel -1000fps .I bought an assortment of pellets to see which ones it liked -it didn't like anything -shot 4-5" groups at 30yds.</p><p>I thought -what a *** -did some reading and read that magnum spring air pellet rifles did not shoot well off of a rest -i tried their method of holding the pellet rifle ''buttery soft'' just let it lay in your hands and when the spring reacts pay attention to which way it recoils and correct the aiming point.</p><p>Immediately it started shooting dime size groups -i would lay my wrist over front and rear sand bags to be as steady as possible -then when i got over the idea that i needed a pellet shaped like a bullet and went to the heavy flat-nose target pellets i could literally shoot pellets into the same hole at 30yds.5-6 shots would make a hole the size of a pencil eraser -kills ground squirrels at 80yds and sounds like someone sneezed when fired.</p><p></p><p>Anyway i'm a believer that sometimes you have to change what you've 'always' did sometimes.</p><p>Also every manufacturer sends out a dud now and then but wanted to hear from people on this board w/ kimber opinions/expierence.Thanks -Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ol mike, post: 225009, member: 4683"] After reading all the threads i could find over at 24hr campfire [kimber cult] i believe ''you hear bad news -over good news''. There are a few people who said themselves -they had a kimber liteweight rifle and ''thought'' it was not accurate ,then after listening to others who had mastered shooting them -they learned how to hold and handle them better. One guy thought he had a dud and sent it back to kimber -they shot it and sent it back w/a proof target of its accuracy capabilities[three -three shot groups that averaged .7"]. He spoke w/kimber and someone there gave him a few tips he tried when he received the rifle back --he immediately shrank his groups to inside an inch. The main problem is you can't let them free recoil without getting high flyers -or so i've read. I have seen several pictures of rauchy bedding but no pictures of bad crowns -poor crowns happen -i just haven't seen pictures.They use a slave action to bed all the rifles -they do not bed each rifle with ''its'' action ,so that isn't really a true bedding job -but better than nothing at all. Many people have kimbers that shoot 1/2" three shot groups -they get fired up when someone goes out buys a kimber in 300wsm shoots a 2" group w/ factory ammo -then crap talks kimber accuracy. The 'learning' how to shoot a particular rifle reminds me of when i bought my pellet rifle -a gamo cfx royale -fixed barrel -1000fps .I bought an assortment of pellets to see which ones it liked -it didn't like anything -shot 4-5" groups at 30yds. I thought -what a *** -did some reading and read that magnum spring air pellet rifles did not shoot well off of a rest -i tried their method of holding the pellet rifle ''buttery soft'' just let it lay in your hands and when the spring reacts pay attention to which way it recoils and correct the aiming point. Immediately it started shooting dime size groups -i would lay my wrist over front and rear sand bags to be as steady as possible -then when i got over the idea that i needed a pellet shaped like a bullet and went to the heavy flat-nose target pellets i could literally shoot pellets into the same hole at 30yds.5-6 shots would make a hole the size of a pencil eraser -kills ground squirrels at 80yds and sounds like someone sneezed when fired. Anyway i'm a believer that sometimes you have to change what you've 'always' did sometimes. Also every manufacturer sends out a dud now and then but wanted to hear from people on this board w/ kimber opinions/expierence.Thanks -Mike [/QUOTE]
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