Kahles K418 and K624

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by puppezed, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. puppezed

    puppezed Member

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    Has anyone got any experiences on the fairly new Kahles K418 and K624 models?
    It looks they feature a very Leupold TMR like reticle (Kahles MIL 1). 0.5 mil mark spread, reticle intersection is open. Unlike TMR, MIL 1 is mil accurate at 10x magnification. TT models feature tactical turrets with 1/8 MOA clicks.

    I´ve been considering Leupold Mark4 6.5-20x or 8.5-25x with TMR reticle but here in Finland K 418 costs about the same as Mark 4 4.5-14x without illumination. I´d presume Kahles has better glass than Leupold.

    Gunmart review:
    http://gunmart.net/accessories_review/kahles_k_418/

    MIL 1 reticle subtensions can be found here:
    http://www.kahles.at/dateien/text/Kataloge/COMPETITION_2009_E.pdf
     

  2. wheelgunner

    wheelgunner Active Member

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    Hello,
    Here in Italy the Kahels K624 it's about 1.500 euro .... not very cheap ... but we are talking about a very very good scope .... with the same money (in my country) i can choose Swaro, S&B, Kahles .... but i don't see great difference.
    All are top-optics for Hunting !
     

  3. scotsgun

    scotsgun Well-Known Member

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    The optical quality of the kahles models is significantly better than that of Leupold Mark4's.

    I really can't ubderstand why Leupold scopes are so expensive in Europe. They're nice scopes but just not kahles, Zeiss, Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender class.

    A friend has a K418 mounted on his Blazer Tactical which he uses for tactical type shooting competitions and also occassional der stalking. It's a very, very good scope with excelent optics and light transmission.
     
  4. puppezed

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    I intend to use the reticle for taking holdover. The thing is that mid-European manufacturers haven´t previously offered good mil-based range compensation reticles besides Schmidt und Bender PM2 P4-reticle. IMO good range compensation reticle has hash marks instead of dots and space between hash marks less than 1 mil. Leupold has TMR, Nightforce has MLR, IOR has MP8. All great reticles, but the Ior, Nightforce and S&B all weigh a ton... and the latter two are probably built like tanks. :) Leupold and Kahles are much lighter.

    In Europe Kahles K418 tends to be much cheaper than say Swarovski PV, Z5 or Z6 with correspoding magnification ranges. I read the review again and it seems that the only short comings of K418 are its lack of adjustments and illuminated reticle (and in my opinion MOA clicks :) ).
     
  5. puppezed

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    MIL 1 reticle looks a bit weird in the Kahles pdf. If someone can find a real life photograph of the reticle, could you post it here please.
     
  6. scotsgun

    scotsgun Well-Known Member

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    You guys are aware that Kahles are actually Swaro - in fact many of the scopes come from the same production plant? What is certain is that the lenses (and many other components) are the same

    Also, i hear that the K series (not sure which one) has been chosen to mate with Saudi Arabia's new Steyr sniper rifles - intended to replace their old Steyr SSG69 with Kahles Z series fixed power scopes (6x42 i think).

    Their new rifles are the SSG-04 in 300wm

    They are also adding to their arsenal of Steyr Mannlicher H.S Cal .50 BMG but unfortunately i don't know which scope they use for this.