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Is remington brass this bad
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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 1156146" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>I do some serious case forming at the house, and one thing I've instantly noticed is that Remington and Winchester brass is softer (actually incorrect as it should be more malleable). Just easier to push a shoulder back. Federal takes a lot more pressure, and you notice this right away. RWS is virtually unworkable. Military brass is not really any harder, but you notice the heavier case walls. The only military brass I've seriously worked over is 5.56x45, and I made .222 brass out of it. Piece of cake. I've made .250 brass out of .308 in the past, and had little trouble. Still I used almost nothing but range pick up Remington brass. </p><p></p><p>When working with Federal brass, you learn some things. Also hit a brick wall at times. I well remember reinventing the wheel with a new wildcat. I made a set of dies out of A2, and had them hardened. After polishing them with Scotch Brite I was ready. Now we beat our head against that wall again and again! Die works well, and destroys the brass. Quick phone call to some well placed folks tell me that I don't want to use Federal brass. Being hard headed I am going to use this Federal .308 or die trying! This time I expand the necks on a dozen cases to .375". Make another die out of A2 (glad I have a couple cigar boxes full of small pieces). This one uses interchangeable sleeves that have the shoulder and the neck O.D. I'm once again getting the job done, BUT as I'm getting close to 8mm the brass is beginning to get seriously tough to work with. Another phone call, and I'm annealing the heck out of the 12 cases (almost dead soft). Old man a heck of a lot smarter than I am said I was working the brass too hard. So the plan is to take the brass down to either 6mm or 6.5mm. I get the brass down to .277" (I.D.), and it's starting to get tough to move again. Still I'm almost there. I anneal the necks and shoulders one more time, but don't go past the 450 degree mark. I get the brass really to fire form. Been a little easier with Remington or Winchester, but they'd still work hardened like the Federal.</p><p></p><p>Three months later some guy re-invents the wheel with a new cartridge called the 6x47!! Very similar to my new wildcat.</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 1156146, member: 25383"] I do some serious case forming at the house, and one thing I've instantly noticed is that Remington and Winchester brass is softer (actually incorrect as it should be more malleable). Just easier to push a shoulder back. Federal takes a lot more pressure, and you notice this right away. RWS is virtually unworkable. Military brass is not really any harder, but you notice the heavier case walls. The only military brass I've seriously worked over is 5.56x45, and I made .222 brass out of it. Piece of cake. I've made .250 brass out of .308 in the past, and had little trouble. Still I used almost nothing but range pick up Remington brass. When working with Federal brass, you learn some things. Also hit a brick wall at times. I well remember reinventing the wheel with a new wildcat. I made a set of dies out of A2, and had them hardened. After polishing them with Scotch Brite I was ready. Now we beat our head against that wall again and again! Die works well, and destroys the brass. Quick phone call to some well placed folks tell me that I don't want to use Federal brass. Being hard headed I am going to use this Federal .308 or die trying! This time I expand the necks on a dozen cases to .375". Make another die out of A2 (glad I have a couple cigar boxes full of small pieces). This one uses interchangeable sleeves that have the shoulder and the neck O.D. I'm once again getting the job done, BUT as I'm getting close to 8mm the brass is beginning to get seriously tough to work with. Another phone call, and I'm annealing the heck out of the 12 cases (almost dead soft). Old man a heck of a lot smarter than I am said I was working the brass too hard. So the plan is to take the brass down to either 6mm or 6.5mm. I get the brass down to .277" (I.D.), and it's starting to get tough to move again. Still I'm almost there. I anneal the necks and shoulders one more time, but don't go past the 450 degree mark. I get the brass really to fire form. Been a little easier with Remington or Winchester, but they'd still work hardened like the Federal. Three months later some guy re-invents the wheel with a new cartridge called the 6x47!! Very similar to my new wildcat. gary [/QUOTE]
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